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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Return of the Inspector to the crime scene - Goncalo Interview
« Reply #135 on: September 08, 2018, 12:35:54 PM »
I can't remember the name, something like Casper or whatever.  I thought Eleanor must have forgotten too.
I have checked it was only a possible statement not actual.  How demanding do we get with that?
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Offline Gertrude

Re: Return of the Inspector to the crime scene - Goncalo Interview
« Reply #136 on: September 08, 2018, 12:36:55 PM »
Are we even allowed to discuss that statement on the forum.  I'd rather drop it and keep the thread from being deleted please.  Gertrude Delete your claim and get back on topic please.

I'm not sure  how I'm expected to know that a bona fide witness statement is off limits yet older members and moderators here don't seem to be sure and are the ones asking me to cite it.

  I didn't think I was off topic either when I am responding to what Davel asked.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Return of the Inspector to the crime scene - Goncalo Interview
« Reply #137 on: September 08, 2018, 12:56:52 PM »
I'm not sure  how I'm expected to know that a bona fide witness statement is off limits yet older members and moderators here don't seem to be sure and are the ones asking me to cite it.

  I didn't think I was off topic either when I am responding to what Davel asked.
I think you could link to it but try not to interpret what the statement could imply.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Return of the Inspector to the crime scene - Goncalo Interview
« Reply #138 on: September 08, 2018, 12:58:16 PM »
No, he was just the leading policeman and coordinator of the case. As the leading theory was that the child had died and the body was concealed, it is not unreasonable to say various methods of disposal should have been investigated. Amaral was quoted as saying, 'We had information three figures went into the church via a side door at night.''
            'We had' as in the PJ, in the past tense had a witness statement.
amaral was not a policeman when he made this, statement... He, was, removed from the investigation fir misconduct... And has, a conviction for perjury
Cite for the leading theory ...cite for 3 figures... Where has this come from.... Quoting amaral is not a reliable source seeing as he tells the dogs, solved 200 cases... And the dogs, alerted ti cadaver odour

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Return of the Inspector to the crime scene - Goncalo Interview
« Reply #139 on: September 08, 2018, 01:01:45 PM »
amaral was not a policeman when he made this, statement... He, was, removed from the investigation fir misconduct... And has, a conviction for perjury
Cite for the leading theory ...cite for 3 figures... Where has this come from.... Quoting amaral is not a reliable source seeing as he tells the dogs, solved 200 cases... And the dogs, alerted ti cadaver odour
Overruled Davel.  Gertrude claims Amaral said this in an interview.  That is the claim and that has been cited in the OP.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Return of the Inspector to the crime scene - Goncalo Interview
« Reply #140 on: September 08, 2018, 01:10:36 PM »
Overruled Davel.  Gertrude claims Amaral said this in an interview.  That is the claim and that has been cited in the OP.

Doesn't make it true... There is no real evidence to support the statement from a convicted perjuror

Offline Gertrude

Re: Return of the Inspector to the crime scene - Goncalo Interview
« Reply #141 on: September 08, 2018, 01:13:47 PM »
I think you could link to it but try not to interpret what the statement could imply.

Thanks for explaining. I believe what I said about that statement is factual and not interpretation on my part. Mrs Gaspar made a statement about comments she heard and she interpreted the comments in a certain way, which would remain a matter for the investigation to determine to be true or not. 

 

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Return of the Inspector to the crime scene - Goncalo Interview
« Reply #142 on: September 08, 2018, 01:14:17 PM »
Overruled Davel.  Gertrude claims Amaral said this in an interview.  That is the claim and that has been cited in the OP.

She has also claimed hiding the body was the leading theory... Cite required as already requested

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Return of the Inspector to the crime scene - Goncalo Interview
« Reply #143 on: September 08, 2018, 01:15:56 PM »
No, he was just the leading policeman and coordinator of the case. As the leading theory was that the child had died and the body was concealed, it is not unreasonable to say various methods of disposal should have been investigated. Amaral was quoted as saying, 'We had information three figures went into the church via a side door at night.''
            'We had' as in the PJ, in the past tense had a witness statement.
Cite fir... This was the leading theory... It wasnt

Offline Gertrude

Re: Return of the Inspector to the crime scene - Goncalo Interview
« Reply #144 on: September 08, 2018, 01:23:12 PM »
Doesn't make it true... There is no real evidence to support the statement from a convicted perjuror

Maybe you could discuss the actual theory and not the personality?

   I'm sure you will be aware Amaral was convicted of falsifying a statement as he chose to take the word of his men over that of a convicted child murderer?   It was later proven he was correct and not lying and Cipriano got extra time on her prison sentence for lying about Amaral's men.

"The Court of Faro condemned today Leonor Cipriano to seven more months in jail for making false accusations in the process which incriminated five Judiciary Police officers of the crimes of aggression and torture."

( expresso 2005)

  With that in mind, you have nothing to prove Amaral was lying about 3 people seen near the church in Praia at night.

Offline Sunny

Re: Return of the Inspector to the crime scene - Goncalo Interview
« Reply #145 on: September 08, 2018, 01:24:32 PM »
Cite fir... This was the leading theory... It wasnt
And you accused me of badgering you for a cite. At least I didn't ask 3 times in 1 hour Davel.
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Offline Gertrude

Re: Return of the Inspector to the crime scene - Goncalo Interview
« Reply #146 on: September 08, 2018, 01:30:26 PM »
Cite fir... This was the leading theory... It wasnt

It was the leading theory when the McCanns were made arguido and questioned.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Return of the Inspector to the crime scene - Goncalo Interview
« Reply #147 on: September 08, 2018, 01:32:03 PM »
Thanks for explaining. I believe what I said about that statement is factual and not interpretation on my part. Mrs Gaspar made a statement about comments she heard and she interpreted the comments in a certain way, which would remain a matter for the investigation to determine to be true or not.

This is an example of a Statement made to Police not being the subject of Libel.  But repeated and discussed here could be Libellous, depending on interpretation.

Neither Gerald McCann not David Payne were ever so much as arrested let alone charged.

Best dropped now, I think.  And best not mentioned again.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Return of the Inspector to the crime scene - Goncalo Interview
« Reply #148 on: September 08, 2018, 01:36:03 PM »
This is an example of a Statement made to Police not being the subject of Libel.  But repeated and discussed here could be Libellous, depending on interpretation.

Neither Gerald McCann not David Payne were ever so much as arrested let alone charged.

Best dropped now, I think.  And best not mentioned again.

Is that really good enough when the statement suggests that children could be in danger ?

Supporters agree that BL should have been charged even though she wasn’t. Couldn’t this statement be similar?
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Offline barrier

Re: Return of the Inspector to the crime scene - Goncalo Interview
« Reply #149 on: September 08, 2018, 03:12:06 PM »
This is an example of a Statement made to Police not being the subject of Libel.  But repeated and discussed here could be Libellous, depending on interpretation.

Neither Gerald McCann not David Payne were ever so much as arrested let alone charged.

Best dropped now, I think.  And best not mentioned again.

You could make the same argument concerning Amaral and the McCanns,trouble is there be nothing for some to get their teeth into if that were to happen.imo of course.
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