Return of the Inspector to the crime scene - Goncalo Interview

[Mr Gray]

You could make the same argument concerning Amaral and the McCanns,trouble is there be nothing for some to get their teeth into if that were to happen.imo of course.

dont quite see what you are saying...amaral discussed the case publicly and made accusations publicly..thats where the libel comes in

[Alice Purjorick]

dont quite see what you are saying...amaral discussed the case publicly and made accusations publicly..thats where the libel comes in

Libel of whom by whom?
McCann v Amaral et al. is long since done and dusted with the verdict having gone in favour of Amaral et al.

[Mr Gray]

Libel of whom by whom?
McCann v Amaral et al. is long since done and dusted with the verdict having gone in favour of Amaral et al.

By amaral... Amaral libelled the McCann's but the SC decided his freedom of speech was more important...that's how I understand it

[Brietta]

Is there any reason to provide this cite? I am sure there are none on here who don't know who's police statement was being discussed, and yes Rob their name sounds a bit like Casper.

If you require Brietta I will happily provide the cite but I am not sure how it is relevant with regards to this thread.

Edited what other such "allegations" are there? Perhaps you can provide a cite for them.

In my opinion if you apparently know of one it is highly likely you know of more if not all.

However here is a cite enumerating that there are apparently at least 5,252 at present already known to the Portuguese authorities.

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Portugal’s ‘pedophile list’ already involves 5,252 names, reports CM.
http://portugalresident.com/pedophile-abducts-child-from-seixal-playground



Not forgetting what I believe is a very small part of the available information recorded in the files regarding the investigation and verification or elimination process which took place regarding named individuals ... which in my opinion makes risible any insinuation that accusations were not investigated with a fine tooth comb.

In my opinion the internet social media implication that the Policia Judiciaria were remiss in their investigation of any of these named individuals is an absolute nonsense.  In my opinion it is one aspect of the investigation they took very seriously indeed.



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From SOCa

To: John Hughes, Leicestershire Police

Operation Task

Germany

Information has been received as the enquiry from UK Crimestoppers. It gives detailed information about a suspect in the Madeleine McCann case.

The suspect is named as a German national with the surname of M******. He has an alias of H*************. He is described as a white male 55-60 year old, 5'8" tall, muscular build, with short grey wavy hair.

He is apparently actively involved in people trafficking and paedophilia and may be known to the German authorities. He may have an associate by the name of F********.

We request the German databases be checked for any information relating to this man.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SEX_OFFENDERS_INFORMATION.htm


That gives you two cites to be going on with fulfilling your request; if you require more than that may I respectfully request you try Google or another search engine of your choice bearing in mind the caveat to have a care where your information comes from because there are many fora which exist in my opinion only to disseminate lies, myth and disinformation about any subject under the sun.

[Brietta]

Are we even allowed to discuss that statement on the forum.  I'd rather drop it and keep the thread from being deleted please.  Gertrude Delete your claim and get back on topic please.

There is a private thread on this subject to which posters can access if they desire to discuss this subject ... might be a sound idea to take it there.

[Brietta]

Perhaps you could request Brietta etc to stop calling for a cite that they know will be deleted Rob.

Which reminds me.  I believe there is an outstanding request from me for you to provide a cite on another topic.

Have you done that yet?

[Sunny]

Which reminds me.  I believe there is an outstanding request from me for you to provide a cite on another topic.

Have you done that yet?

Could you remind me of the cite request please?

[Vertigo Swirl]

No, he was just the leading policeman and coordinator of the case. As the leading theory was that the child had died and the body was concealed, it is not unreasonable to say various methods of disposal should have been investigated. Amaral was quoted as saying, 'We had information three figures went into the church via a side door at night.''
            'We had' as in the PJ, in the past tense had a witness statement.

Where is this information in the files, and why was the question not put to the McCanns when they were made arguidos?

[Robittybob1]

There is a private thread on this subject to which posters can access if they desire to discuss this subject ... might be a sound idea to take it there.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=5775.0

[Mr Gray]

It was the leading theory when the McCanns were made arguido and questioned.

Who said it was the leading theory... There were three theories.. So cite, still required

[Gertrude]

Who said it was the leading theory... There were three theories.. So cite, still required

Maybe I could have a cite from you about these three theories and which were leading, or not?

  As everyone here is likely aware, the stranger abduction theory was not the leading theory with Amaral and the PJ or they wouldn't have questioned the McCanns on hiding a body. This was confirmed in a statement from The interim report of Tavares de Almeida of the Portuguese Police, 10 September 2007;

 

From everything that we have discovered, our files result in the following conclusions:

A. the minor Madeleine McCann died in Apartment 5A at the Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz, on the night of 3 May 2007

B. a simulation - a staged hoax - of an abduction took place

C. in order to render the child’s death impossible before 10.00pm, a situation of checking of the McCann couple’s children while they slept was concocted

D. Dr Gerald McCann and Dr Kate McCann are involved in the concealment of the corpse of their daughter, Madeleine McCann

E. at this moment, there seems to be no strong indications that the child’s death was other than the result of a tragic accident, yet;

F. from what has been established up to now, everything indicates that the McCann couple, in self-defence, did not want to deliver up Madeleine’s corpse immediately and voluntarily, and there is a strong possibility therefore that it was moved from the initial place where she died. This situation may raise questions concerning the circumstances in which the death of the child took place.

G. Therefore, we suggest that the case files are sent to the Republic’s Prosecutor, in the Lagos legal district, for:

1) possible new questioning of the arguidos Dr Gerald and Dr Kate McCann, and

2) an evaluation of the measure of restraint to be applied in this case.

During the house search at the McCann couple’s residence, a diary style manuscript was found, already photocopied, possibly authored by Dr Kate McCann; admitting that it may contain information that may help to reach the material truth of facts.

We therefore propose that the photocopies of the said document are presented to the illustrious judge for the purpose of its apprehension (if legal), its translation and eventual collection of information to be included in the files, as necessary for the investigation.

At this date, I submit the case files for your appreciation, for you to determine whatever you may see as convenient.

10 September 2007

Also said at the libel trial ""Gonçalo Amaral does not usurp the investigation conclusions, because they come from investigation", said Tavares de Almeida.

In his turn, the PJ inspector Ricardo Paiva, the liaison police officer to the English police, and later on to the McCann family, said "The thesis of the book of Gonçalo Amaral is the investigation" and ensured that there was "no intention" of the book author "to harm the couple"

[Vertigo Swirl]

Maybe I could have a cite from you about these three theories and which were leading, or not?

  As everyone here is likely aware, the stranger abduction theory was not the leading theory with Amaral and the PJ or they wouldn't have questioned the McCanns on hiding a body. This was confirmed in a statement from The interim report of Tavares de Almeida of the Portuguese Police, 10 September 2007;

 
Also said at the libel trial ""Gonçalo Amaral does not usurp the investigation conclusions, because they come from investigation", said Tavares de Almeida.

In his turn, the PJ inspector Ricardo Paiva, the liaison police officer to the English police, and later on to the McCann family, said "The thesis of the book of Gonçalo Amaral is the investigation" and ensured that there was "no intention" of the book author "to harm the couple"

Well he would say that wouldn’t he.  What was the intention of the book then? 

[Erngath]

Well he would say that wouldn’t he.  What was the intention of the book then?

Something to do with his "honour", I believe.
It's a pity he couldn't have promoted his "honour" without maligning Madeleine's parents and friends.

[Gertrude]

Well he would say that wouldn’t he.  What was the intention of the book then?

I'm not with you, who is 'he' ?  The quotes I included are from Tavares de Almeida and Ricardo Paiva.

  I was answering Davel's request for a cite about which was the leading theory in the original investigation, I think the intention of the book is off topic somewhat.

[Mr Gray]

Maybe I could have a cite from you about these three theories and which were leading, or not?

  As everyone here is likely aware, the stranger abduction theory was not the leading theory with Amaral and the PJ or they wouldn't have questioned the McCanns on hiding a body. This was confirmed in a statement from The interim report of Tavares de Almeida of the Portuguese Police, 10 September 2007;

 
Also said at the libel trial ""Gonçalo Amaral does not usurp the investigation conclusions, because they come from investigation", said Tavares de Almeida.

In his turn, the PJ inspector Ricardo Paiva, the liaison police officer to the English police, and later on to the McCann family, said "The thesis of the book of Gonçalo Amaral is the investigation" and ensured that there was "no intention" of the book author "to harm the couple"

Could you provide a link as to where your cite comes from