Is sectarianism a factor in the McCann case?

[Vertigo Swirl]

When ammunition was issued it was planned and every round was recorded. I don't suppose the IRA had the same procedures

And?  Are you suggesting that the massacre of civilians was planned?

[Eleanor]

A blanket is always more interesting when different coloured threads are used.

Thank You, Faith.  That was kind.

[Eleanor]

And?  Are you suggesting that the massacre of civilians was planned?

It was at one point, although largely quite some time ago.  Although I don't think the British Troops were in on this.

[G-Unit]

Thanks for an honest opinion.  It still upsets me to think of what was done to Irish Catholics.

An Army follows orders. Only those high up know what motivates their deployment. The Catholics thought that the Army was neutral, so better than the RUC. The actions of the Army suggested they weren't neutral at all. I equate the treatment of the Northern Ireland Catholics with the treatment of the black population in the USA.

[Erngath]

An Army follows orders. Only those high up know what motivates their deployment. The Catholics thought that the Army was neutral, so better than the RUC. The actions of the Army suggested they weren't neutral at all. I equate the treatment of the Northern Ireland Catholics with the treatment of the black population in the USA.

All ( bar one ) of my great grandparents came from Northern Ireland to Scotland.
I'm still clinging to the one Scottish thread in my ancestry.

[G-Unit]

And?  Are you suggesting that the massacre of civilians was planned?

No, the issuing of ammunition was planned, as was the use of the Para's. As the Saville report pointed out;

"1 PARA was a force with a reputation for using excessive physical violence, which thus ran the risk of exacerbating the tensions between the Army and nationalists"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1972)#Saville_Inquiry

In my opinion there was no intention to kill unarmed civilians. The intention was to make sure no soldiers died, so they sent the ones deemed most capable of protecting themselves if attacked.

[slartibartfast]

All ( bar one ) of my great grandparents came from Northern Ireland to Scotland.
I'm still clinging to the one Scottish thread in my ancestry.

So what’s wrong with the Northern Irish?

[Eleanor]

An Army follows orders. Only those high up know what motivates their deployment. The Catholics thought that the Army was neutral, so better than the RUC. The actions of the Army suggested they weren't neutral at all. I equate the treatment of the Northern Ireland Catholics with the treatment of the black population in the USA.

My neighbour, who served in Northern Ireland many years ago, told me that they were sent there to protect Irish Catholics.  I'm not sure how this was supposed to work, but he is an honest man and I have never had reason to disbelieve him.

[Eleanor]

All ( bar one ) of my great grandparents came from Northern Ireland to Scotland.
I'm still clinging to the one Scottish thread in my ancestry.

All closely related, Erngath  The Irish MacDonnells and The Scots MacDonalds have the same Clan Chief.

[Erngath]

So what’s wrong with the Northern Irish?

What makes you believe that I think there is something wrong with the Northern Irish?

[Erngath]

My neighbour, who served in Northern Ireland many years ago, told me that they were sent there to protect Irish Catholics.  I'm not sure how this was supposed to work, but he is an honest man and I have never had reason to disbelieve him.

I believe the troops were welcomed at first by the Northern Irish Catholics.
I knew a lady who had first hand knowledge of the way SOME of the troops treated the Catholic population.
Gradually trust was lost.

[G-Unit]

All ( bar one ) of my great grandparents came from Northern Ireland to Scotland.
I'm still clinging to the one Scottish thread in my ancestry.

I don't know why, there's nothing wrong with having Northern Irish roots in my opinion.

[Erngath]

I don't know why, there's nothing wrong with having Northern Irish roots in my opinion.

Goodness me!
So far two folk have misconstrued my post and both are sceptics.
There's nothing wrong with having Northern Irish roots nor do I think there is anything wrong with being Northern Irish .
I said all bar one of my great grandparents were from Northern Ireland which means all my grand parents and my parents were Scottish so I am clinging to the one Scottish ancestry thread I have, as I feel Scottish not Northern Irish.

[G-Unit]

My neighbour, who served in Northern Ireland many years ago, told me that they were sent there to protect Irish Catholics.  I'm not sure how this was supposed to work, but he is an honest man and I have never had reason to disbelieve him.

That's definitely what the troops and the public were told at the time. There wasn't a lot of knowledge of the British Government's historical attitude to the two 'sides' in N.I. at the time, so people believed it.

[Mr Gray]

I believe the troops were welcomed at first by the Northern Irish Catholics.
I knew a lady who had first hand knowledge of the way SOME of the troops treated the Catholic population.
Gradually trust was lost.

That's exactly what happened..