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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why do some people doubt the McCanns version of events?
« Reply #495 on: September 19, 2018, 08:42:49 PM »
Either that or someone's recently taken out a Readers Digest subscription in the hope of improving their word power
more insults.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why do some people doubt the McCanns version of events?
« Reply #496 on: September 19, 2018, 08:45:31 PM »
Who is to say?  I think the first person it became apparent to was the holder of that opinion.
It is like saying "the way I see it"  is that opinion or fact?

Faith stated it as a fact not opinion.. It us apparent means it is true..
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why do some people doubt the McCanns version of events?
« Reply #497 on: September 19, 2018, 08:55:56 PM »
Faith stated it as a fact not opinion.. It us apparent means it is true.. A mod that doesn't  understand  English creates some problems
You prove to me that when someone says "it is apparent" that that expression makes a claim it is a fact.   It might feel like a fact to the person saying it, but IMO it is still an opinion.

apparently
əˈparəntli/Submit
adverb
as far as one knows or can see.
"the child nodded, apparently content with the promise"
synonyms:   seemingly, evidently, it seems (that), it would seem (that), it appears (that), it would appear (that), as far as one knows, by all accounts, so it seems;
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why do some people doubt the McCanns version of events?
« Reply #498 on: September 19, 2018, 09:08:53 PM »
Your opinion is incorrect... You have repeated problems with the precise meaning of English words
I said prove it, not just repeat the claim.  "You prove to me that when someone says "it is apparent" that that expression makes a claim it is a fact.   It might feel like a fact to the person saying it, but IMO it is still an opinion."

Do it.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why do some people doubt the McCanns version of events?
« Reply #499 on: September 19, 2018, 09:16:14 PM »
I said prove it, not just repeat the claim.  "You prove to me that when someone says "it is apparent" that that expression makes a claim it is a fact.   It might feel like a fact to the person saying it, but IMO it is still an opinion."

Do it.

Why should I... If you want to live in ignorance it's your choice

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why do some people doubt the McCanns version of events?
« Reply #500 on: September 19, 2018, 09:18:40 PM »
Why should I... If you want to live in ignorance it's your choice
You made the claim I was wrong now you prove it.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why do some people doubt the McCanns version of events?
« Reply #501 on: September 19, 2018, 09:42:43 PM »
You made the claim I was wrong now you prove it.
You are wrong.. Apparent means, true.... You can't understand  a language from a dictionary

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why do some people doubt the McCanns version of events?
« Reply #502 on: September 19, 2018, 09:54:02 PM »
You are wrong.. Apparent means, true.... You can't understand  a language from a dictionary

In the English language "apparent" has two discrete meanings.
Take your pick.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why do some people doubt the McCanns version of events?
« Reply #503 on: September 19, 2018, 10:19:55 PM »
apparent
[uh-par-uhnt, uh-pair-]
SynonymsExamplesWord Origin
See more synonyms for apparent on Thesaurus.com
adjective
readily seen; exposed to sight; open to view; visible:
The crack in the wall was readily apparent.
capable of being easily perceived or understood; plain or clear; obvious:
The solution to the problem was apparent to all.
according to appearances, initial evidence, incomplete results, etc.; ostensible rather than actual:
He was the apparent winner of the election.

it was apparent (capable of being easily perceived or understood; plain or clear; obvious) that some McCann supporters were uneasy blah blah blah. So now let’s have the cite please.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why do some people doubt the McCanns version of events?
« Reply #504 on: September 19, 2018, 10:22:39 PM »
apparent
əˈpar(ə)nt/Submit
adjective
1.
clearly visible or understood; obvious.
"for no apparent reason she laughed"
synonyms:   evident, plain, obvious, clear, manifest, visible, discernible, perceptible, perceivable, noticeable, detectable, recognizable, observable; More
2.
seeming real or true, but not necessarily so.
"his apparent lack of concern"
synonyms:   seeming, ostensible, outward, superficial, surface, supposed, presumed, so-called, alleged, professed, avowed, declared, claimed, purported, pretended, feigned; rareostensive

I take it to mean in this case  seeming real or true, but not necessarily so.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why do some people doubt the McCanns version of events?
« Reply #505 on: September 19, 2018, 10:37:34 PM »
insulting.

Would you care to put that into a properly constructed sentence such that it has meaning?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why do some people doubt the McCanns version of events?
« Reply #506 on: September 19, 2018, 10:38:35 PM »
apparent
əˈpar(ə)nt/Submit
adjective
1.
clearly visible or understood; obvious.
"for no apparent reason she laughed"
synonyms:   evident, plain, obvious, clear, manifest, visible, discernible, perceptible, perceivable, noticeable, detectable, recognizable, observable; More
2.
seeming real or true, but not necessarily so.
"his apparent lack of concern"
synonyms:   seeming, ostensible, outward, superficial, surface, supposed, presumed, so-called, alleged, professed, avowed, declared, claimed, purported, pretended, feigned; rareostensive

I take it to mean in this case  seeming real or true, but not necessarily so.
Well why don’t you ask Faithlilly if she meant “it seemed true, but not necessarily so, that McCann supporters were uneasy blah blah blah”.  Now doubt she will claim she did to get out of having to provide a cite that doesn’t actually exist.  @)(++(*
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why do some people doubt the McCanns version of events?
« Reply #507 on: September 19, 2018, 10:38:51 PM »
Would you care to put that into a properly constructed sentence such that it has meaning?
No.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Sunny

Re: Why do some people doubt the McCanns version of events?
« Reply #508 on: September 19, 2018, 10:45:40 PM »
I have to say I thought that some supporters didn't want the conversation to go on which was one of the reasons I posted that I was enjoying (which I was) the off topic discussion as I wanted it to go on.

I can't find the exact thread or I would cite it.  All IMO but it was apparent to me anyway.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why do some people doubt the McCanns version of events?
« Reply #509 on: September 19, 2018, 10:49:45 PM »
That is probably a wise move on your part

As an aside, notice how the sceptics mock if you use simple, to the point  language, and mock if you use words like shibboleths, just what can we supporters do right in their hyper-critical eyes...? 
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"You can't reason with the unreasonable".