Jeremy Bamber - Jackie's theories on why Sheila did it

[jackiepreece]

The significance of the bible found by Sheila's body and the significance of where the bible was left open???


Why has the owner of the  fingerprints on the bible found by
Sheila NEVER been disclosed???   

What possible reason could there be to WITHOLD this evidence


Sheila Caffell was found with an open Bible by her side. The pages were covered in bloodied fingerprints. Document's show the bible was tested and forensics were positive for prints, but the owner of the prints was never disclosed. Could this be because they were the bloodied fingerprints of Sheila Caffell?



Her Bible was found by her side, open at pages containing Psalms 51-55. Eminent theologian Susan Gillingham has prepared a report on the significance of these psalms, in relation to Sheila's mental state and religious mania. She says anyone who knew the psalms well would turn to them as a means of "expressing their own penitence at the evil within themselves and outrage at the evil words and actions performed against them by others".


Astonishingly, the bloodstained Bible was never  produced at trial, despite repeated requests from Bamber's solicitor. So the jury was not aware of the significance of the psalms.

Photographs also showed a handwritten note sticking up from between the pages of the Bible. The words at the top of the note are "love one another" – the same words were written on a banner on a wall in a room in Jonestown, Guyana, where 909 people died in 1978 in a mass murder-suicide. But the evidential value of what was inside the Bible cannot now be gauged; Essex police have informed Bamber's lawyers that the note has been destroyed.


 
Hugh Ferguson, Sheila's psychiatrist, gave evidence at the trial. In a statement made in 2002, he says he was unaware that the Bible was open at the psalms at the time he gave evidence.

 Having read them, he says, "they contain in them the themes which, over time, I knew were exercising Sheila Caffell. In short form, the struggle between good and evil, or God and the Devil."




Important Factors That Could Have Affected Sheila's State Of Mind The Day Of The Murders


Nor was Ferguson, or the jury, aware of another factor that may have influenced Sheila to carry out the killings.

At the trial, Bamber said his sister was upset at the prospect of losing her children,

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but the prosecution accused him of making this up.
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Last week, the Guardian was passed a letter, written by Sheila's ex-husband, Colin Caffell, to Nevill Bamber. In it, Caffell expresses deep concern about Sheila's mental state and asks his father-in law-to "try and convince Sheila that it would be better for her and the boys if they stayed with me most of the time".

Ferguson says if Nevill had pleaded Caffell's case to Sheila, it could have had a "potentially catastrophic effect on her".

As a result, he says, "she may have projected on to her father a concept of evil".

[Holly Goodhead]

Holly these are my reasons why I PERSONALLY believe there is reasonable doubt in this case.


Jeremy Bamber had NO history of being violent, he was known not to like blood sports. I have had contact with people he went to school with who know Jeremy's character and believe him to be innocent.
He was not bought up in a violent home.

Julie Mugford chief prosecution witness and someone who personally benefitted from Jeremy's conviction had a history of lies and deceit and even admitted saying to Jeremy 'if I can't have you nobody can'.
Julie Mugford only went to the police to say Jeremy was guilty straight after the relationship broke down.
There is not one piece of actual evidence that proves anything Julie said about Jeremy being guilty is true

Vital evidence that could have been further forensically tested has been destroyed by the police when they were told pacifically not to destroy anything in what is one of the country's most infamous murder cases

File one which relates to the time police believed it was a murder suicide has been witheld from the defence right up until today

The relatives who gained financially from Jeremy's convictions made many statements which were a deliberate attempt to blacken Jeremy's name with no actual truth to them

David Boutflour 'forgot' when giving evidence Sheila had been with the family on shooting holidays

At the time of Jeremy's conviction little was known about Sheila's illness but there has been many more cases just like Sheila, mothers who kill there children

Anti Bambers make much of Sheila being in a clean condition when found but there was a bucket of bloodied clothes found at WHF that was not taken by police or tested

Sheila had asked her husband for a reconciliation on their last journey to WHF but he rejected her saying he was with someone else

The CCRC abruptly shut down Jeremy's application to appeal not long after Simon McKay had been appointed as a new lawyer when Simon McKay was in the middle of vital tests that could have proved Jeremy was innocent.
Up until Simons appointment Jeremy was told he could have as long as he liked to make his submissions

When Jeremy was first told by the police all his family were dead his instant reaction was to blame the police and say they were responsible as he believed there had been movement in WHF when he was watching the house with the police.  If he had wanted to put the blame on Sheila why would he say this.


The Rifle
The gun used to carry out the shootings at White House Farm was a .22 Anshuttz rifle.  This rifle fires a small bullet about the size of a fingernail. There were many guns at the farm, totalling 7 if Anthony Pargeter’s bolt action rifle was also present, these included 12 bore shotguns and .410’s, most of which were kept in the cupboard under the stairs and in the downstairs toilet, although a shotgun was also found upstairs in the office and another found in the downstairs office. The rifle in question had not long been purchased by Nevill Bamber and was licensed in his name. Jeremy on the other hand did not own a gun or a license, though he would use Nevill’s rifle’s around the farm to shoot vermin.


Jeremy said that after he had an aborted mission to shoot rabbits that evening, he left the .22 Anshuttz rifle on the settle in the kitchen, he also left some ammunition and magazines out. For those who know very little about guns, this particular rifle is loaded by putting the bullets into a ‘magazine.’ The rifle was what is known as ‘self loading,’ this means that once you load the magazine into the rifle you can keep firing the gun easily over and over until the magazine is empty. The rifle had discharged 26 bullets to kill the family, as a magazine holds 10 bullets, this means it would have been loaded up to three times by Sheila, although Jeremy had already loaded one magazine and left it out on the side.

It has been postulated by the prosecution that it would have been difficult for Sheila to load and fire the weapon. Most of us do not realize exactly how easy the gun was to fire, and that it could be fired accurately at close range. All the deceased were shot within less than 4 feet. The picture to the right is a photograph of the actual gun which Sheila used to kill the family.



The DNA Evidence That Never Was
Most would agree that the only irrefutable proof you could present in the case of convicting someone of murder is that of DNA evidence. Jeremy Bamber has been imprisoned since 1985 yet no DNA or forensic evidence links him to his supposed crimes. The closest the prosecution came was a small flake of blood, found inside a sound moderator that they alleged belonged to Jeremy’s sister – ruling her out as the killer. The jury couldn’t make a unanimous verdict and asked to hear the evidence of blood in the moderator again then they convicted Jeremy by a 10 to 2 majority. This page devastatingly undermines the prosecution’s case by detailing how forensics from three different sound moderators were patched together by police and presented to the jury as findings from one exhibit.

The 2002 Appeal and the mystery of blood in the sound moderator

by J, Bamber and J, Martin-Adams, last updated 25.01.13

Part of the prosecution case against Jeremy Bamber at his trial in 1986 involved the claim that a blood flake discovered inside a sound moderator must have originated from Sheila Caffell. Supposedly, the existence of this blood meant that the sound moderator must have been attached to the rifle when the murders were carried out. However, because the moderator was later discovered in the gun cupboard, Sheila could not have committed suicide with it still attached. It is, of course, as the judge put it, ‘inconceivable’ that she could have shot herself and then unscrewed the moderator and put it away.

However, the argument concerning Sheila’s blood was undermined seriously by tests carried out prior to the 2002 appeal,
Laboratory Testing

which involved DNA testing which was not available in 1985. These tests cast doubt on the claim that Sheila’s blood had ever been present inside the moderator, prompting the Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC) to make a referral to the Court of Appeal during their 2001 investigation.

Background – the significance of the AK enzyme

Human blood is made up of a number of different constituents including red and white blood cells, plasma, and a number of different enzymes. In forensic science, some of these enzymes are used to make the distinction between blood samples from one person and blood samples from another. One example is the AK enzyme, which would become important in the case of Jeremy Bamber.

Human beings have two types of AK enzyme, namely, AK1 and AK2-1[1]. The blood flake discovered inside the sound moderator was analyzed and found to contain the AK1 enzyme, meaning that it could not have originated from June Bamber, whose blood contained AK2-1[2]. The blood of the other deceased family members – Nevill Bamber, Daniel Caffell and Nicholas Caffell – belonged to the AK-1 grouping. David Boutflour and Ann Eaton (the children of Robert and Pamela Boutflour) also shared the AK1 grouping: both handled Nevill Bamber’s sound moderator (DB/1) before giving it to Essex Police[3]. Sheila Caffell’s enzyme blood grouping was A, PGM 1 +, EAP BA, AK1, HP2-1: an identical match to Robert Boutflour, Jeremy’s uncle though marriage to his mother’s sister, Pamela Speakman. Both Robert and Pamela were primary beneficiaries of the estate upon the conviction of Jeremy Bamber[4].

At the 1986 trial, the Court was told that the discovery of the AK-1 enzyme constituted clear evidence that the blood flake found inside the sound moderator came from Sheila Caffell[5]. What the Court was not told was that the AK-1 enzyme found in human blood is genetically identical to the AK-1 enzyme found in the blood of pigs, cattle, rabbits, chickens and carp[6]. The rifle and the sound moderators were used to shoot game and could have been carried alongside rabbits when returning from a shoot. Had the Court been informed that two types of animal blood were found on the outer surface of the first sound moderator (SBJ/1)[7], perhaps the discovery of the AK-1 enzyme would have been attributed to animal, rather than human, blood. Given that this discovery was not disclosed until after the 2002 Appeal[8], the Court was denied the opportunity to consider the significance of this information during the 1986 trial.

The 2002 Appeal

Police records confirm that a total of three Parker Hale MM1-type sound moderators (SBJ/1; DB/1 and DRB/1) were seized by Essex Police in 1985. In preparation for the 2002 appeal, tests were carried out on one of the three moderators[9] to analyse DNA on the internal baffle plates. It is not known which of three was examined for the appeal[10]. The fact that all three moderators were mixed up and mislabelled by Essex Police caused confusion for many years, but it has now become clear which of the three was kept by the police after the trial, and which were returned to Jeremy’s cousins, Anthony Pargeter and David Boutflour.

The sound moderator retained by Essex Police was DNA tested by forensic experts working for the Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC) in 2001, revealing both male and female DNA on the internal baffle plates. The female DNA turned out to be a perfect match for June Bamber[11], even though her blood grouping of AK2-1 was not found inside the moderator in 1986. The results confirmed that the male DNA was not a match for Jeremy Bamber.

Giving a DNA Sample

The prosecution team tried to establish whether the sound moderator contained DNA matching Jeremy’s relatives, including David Boutflour, Robert Boutflour, Peter Eaton and Anthony Pargeter, all of whom had handled one or more of the sound moderators. With the exception of Anthony Pargeter, there is no evidence to suggest that the other male relatives agreed to provide DNA samples to be checked against the male DNA found inside the moderator[12].

At the 2002 appeal, the prosecution’s forensic experts conceded that the Crown could no longer rely on Sheila’s blood ever having been inside the sound moderator[13]. However, Mark Webster, a forensic scientist called to give evidence by the defence, argued that because the DNA found on the sound moderator could not be attributed to blood, it remains possible that the blood that was originally present on the internal baffle plates had been completely swabbed off during earlier testing, and that the DNA from June Bamber and the unknown male may have been nothing more than accidental cross-contamination[14]. In other words, the absence of Sheila’s DNA did not mean that her blood had never been present inside the sound moderator.

Obtaining Blood from a Flake

Although Mark Webster had been called to give evidence on behalf of the defence, his testimony completely undermined the argument of the defence that Sheila’s blood had never been on the sound moderator’s baffle plates, and accordingly, the appeal judges dismissed this ground of appeal based upon Mr Webster’s evidence[15]. Ironically, had Jeremy’s defence lawyers not called Mr Webster to give evidence, the appeal judges would probably have accepted the evidence given by the prosecution’s forensic experts and the appeal against conviction might have been granted.


The three sound moderators


The courts have never been presented with evidence that Essex Police actually seized three sound moderators during the original investigation. Recently disclosed evidence shows that Essex Police seized one moderator from the gun cupboard on 7 August 1985 (SBJ/1)[16]. David Boutflour discovered Nevill Bamber’s sound moderator (DB/1) on 10 August 1985, which was handed to the police by Peter and Ann Eaton on 11 September 1985[17]. David Boutflour handed in his own sound moderator (DRB/1) shortly after 25 September 1985, and this was returned to him on 20 May 1988[18]. Essex Police submitted two of these sound moderators (SBJ/1 and DRB/1) for forensic analysis, yet it was concluded that the blood, paint and DNA findings all related to one sound moderator. Although the recently unearthed evidence confirms that the results relate to two separate sound moderators[19], Essex Police somehow combined all of the forensic findings from two identical sound moderators to make the case that only one moderator was examined at Huntingdon Forensic Laboratory. At the 1986 trial, the combined evidence from SBJ/1 and DB/1 was presented as being from DRB/1, which, ironically, was the only sound moderator which had not been subject to forensic examination[20].

Hi Jackie.  Thank you so much for the above I really appreciate the effort you have gone to in explaining your reasons for believing why Jeremy may well be innocent.  I've got a mountain of material to get through and I'm going to pay special attention to the areas you have highlighted.  Thank you once again Jackie 

[Angelo222]

The significance of the bible found by Sheila's body and the significance of where the bible was left open???


Why has the owner of the  fingerprints on the bible found by
Sheila NEVER been disclosed???   

What possible reason could there be to WITHOLD this evidence


Sheila Caffell was found with an open Bible by her side. The pages were covered in bloodied fingerprints. Document's show the bible was tested and forensics were positive for prints, but the owner of the prints was never disclosed. Could this be because they were the bloodied fingerprints of Sheila Caffell?



Her Bible was found by her side, open at pages containing Psalms 51-55. Eminent theologian Susan Gillingham has prepared a report on the significance of these psalms, in relation to Sheila's mental state and religious mania. She says anyone who knew the psalms well would turn to them as a means of "expressing their own penitence at the evil within themselves and outrage at the evil words and actions performed against them by others".


Astonishingly, the bloodstained Bible was never  produced at trial, despite repeated requests from Bamber's solicitor. So the jury was not aware of the significance of the psalms.

Photographs also showed a handwritten note sticking up from between the pages of the Bible. The words at the top of the note are "love one another" ? the same words were written on a banner on a wall in a room in Jonestown, Guyana, where 909 people died in 1978 in a mass murder-suicide. But the evidential value of what was inside the Bible cannot now be gauged; Essex police have informed Bamber's lawyers that the note has been destroyed.


 
Hugh Ferguson, Sheila's psychiatrist, gave evidence at the trial. In a statement made in 2002, he says he was unaware that the Bible was open at the psalms at the time he gave evidence.

 Having read them, he says, "they contain in them the themes which, over time, I knew were exercising Sheila Caffell. In short form, the struggle between good and evil, or God and the Devil."




Important Factors That Could Have Affected Sheila's State Of Mind The Day Of The Murders


Nor was Ferguson, or the jury, aware of another factor that may have influenced Sheila to carry out the killings.

At the trial, Bamber said his sister was upset at the prospect of losing her children,

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but the prosecution accused him of making this up.
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Last week, the Guardian was passed a letter, written by Sheila's ex-husband, Colin Caffell, to Nevill Bamber. In it, Caffell expresses deep concern about Sheila's mental state and asks his father-in law-to "try and convince Sheila that it would be better for her and the boys if they stayed with me most of the time".

Ferguson says if Nevill had pleaded Caffell's case to Sheila, it could have had a "potentially catastrophic effect on her".

As a result, he says, "she may have projected on to her father a concept of evil".

Why do you always take an event and imply that it is evidence of Sheila's guilt jackie???

Please read this carefully at least twice...

FACT:  The finger prints on the Bible didn't belong to Sheila.  Sheila DIDN'T HAVE BLOOD ON HER FINGER TIPS or anywhere else within her hands.  She could NOT therfore have applied fingerprints in blood to the Bible be it voluntary or involuntary.

Did you get that Jackie???

[Angelo222]

To answer your second point Jackie, if Colin Caffell had had any serious concerns about his ex wife's mental stability he would not have let her get unfettered access to the twins.

In relation to the Bible Jackie, this doesn't represent evidence one way or the other.  The Bible could have been placed there by anyone. In fact, Dr Vanezis commented after seeing the position of the Bible that it was a prop and appeared to have been placed after Sheila's collapse.  For the Bible to have landed where it did Sheila would have to have held the rifle and the Bible at the same time while shooting herself....impossible!!!!!!!

[John]

Clearly we have to be guided by the evidence and the facts and not get involved in speculation.

Sheila never handled the rifle, nor did she leave any fingerprints in blood on the Bible.  Her killer set the scene after he shot her twice in the neck.  He laid the rifle lengthwise along her body and left the Bible by her hand for good measure.  Now who could have done such a thing and why?    >@@(*&)

[jackiepreece]

David I am trying to keep to the facts more than the people who 'make out' Jeremy hated farming, hated Sheila and hated his parents !!!! Was in the process of buying a Porche and his photo was the only one missing from Nanny Speakmans bedroom or Sheila had never been on a shooting holiday !!!

It is a fact Colin had asked Neville to handle the tricky problem of telling Sheila she should have LESS time with her children because of Colin's worries.
It is a FACT because the letter exists !!!


'Last week, the Guardian was passed a letter, written by Sheila's ex-husband, Colin Caffell, to Nevill Bamber. In it, Caffell expresses deep concern about Sheila's mental state and asks his father-in law-to "try and convince Sheila that it would be better for her and the boys if they stayed with me most of the time".

Ferguson says if Nevill had pleaded Caffell's case to Sheila, it could have had a "potentially catastrophic effect on her".

As a result, he says, "she may have projected on to her father a concept of evil".'

David you posted this:

'There is no basis for any of this discussion as it is pure speculation.'

I totally disagree if you want to discuss the Bamber case I think this is a basis for discussion.
Sheila's doctor 'THE EXPERT' said if Neville had been the person who told Sheila she should be spending less time with her children
'Ferguson says if Nevill had pleaded Caffell's case to Sheila, it could have had a "potentially catastrophic effect on her".
As a result, he says, "she may have projected on to her father a concept of evil".'

None of us know exactly what happened on that last journey to WHF between Sheila and Colin except he rejected her when she had asked to get back with him. He told her he was with someone else.
We don't know exactly what was said at that last meal at WHF but we know for a fact Colin asked Neville to speak to Sheila about Colin should be spending more time with the children and her less.

We also know the statistics for people with Sheila's condition committing suicide are very high especially if the person uses canabis

None of us know what happened at WHF but we can only speculate what really happened and how poor Sheila was really coping

As for the bible why was it destroyed when police officers and the family suspected Jeremy from the beginning?

I suspect there are more details about the bible in file one which the defence have NOT been allowed to see and who really believes Jeremy would have known which page to leave the bible open on?
Does anyone really believe Sheila would have laid down and let Jeremy shoot her after he had killed her children.
Does anyone really believe she wouldn't have been like a crazed women and be covered in bruises??

[sika]

Rather than speculate wildly about whether Jeremy ever said this or ever said that, whether he hated farming or ever considered buying a motor car, why not address the relevant issues in this case.
None of us have any idea whether he hated farming or not. However, we all know that Shelia was found without a mark on her.

Jackie, why don't you spend your time campaigning for a really worthy cause?

The whole argument for Bambers innocence, as put forward by his supporters, is pathetic. I find it difficult to understand how seemingly, otherwise intelligent people, cannot see the truth.

[Andrea]

Rather than speculate wildly about whether Jeremy ever said this or ever said that, whether he hated farming or ever considered buying a motor car, why not address the relevant issues in this case.
None of us have any idea whether he hated farming or not. However, we all know that Shelia was found without a mark on her.

Jackie, why don't you spend your time campaigning for a really worthy cause?

The whole argument for Bambers innocence, as put forward by his supporters, is pathetic. I find it difficult to understand how seemingly, otherwise intelligent people, cannot see the truth.

The fact that Sheila was found without a mark on her gets ignored, you get the usual 'so was jeremy'. Forgetting that he had planned this for well over a year, when he went to WHF to slay his family he would have gone prepared, gloves etc
He had over a month to get rid of any incriminating evidence. Sheila was wearing a flimsy, sleeveless nightie and as we know, showed no signs of the carnage she was supposed to have caused. But let's forget all that, it isnt important!

[goatboy]

No one doubts that Sheila was a very troubled woman with a serious mental illness. However, the fact is she was too forensically clean to have committed the murders. It's probably true to say that the rifle would not have been that hard to fire. However, you've got to remember that Sheila during a psychotic episode would have to have the presence of mind to hit the target so many times, have the dexterity and agility to reload at least twice and have the physical ability to batter a much larger man. Even if we accept she could have done all these things the fact is we have all seen the photo of her body and there is no way this person could have done so given how unmarked and free of signs of a struggle, blood spatter etc she is. Finally if we agree to consider the not even half baked theory that she committed the murders and then had a shower, where is the evidence of this? Wouldn't there have been evidence that the shower had been used to wash blood away? Did she clean the shower as well? Good thinking for a psychotically insane woman. I agree, there are plenty more worthy miscarriages of justice to investigate. It's a fascinating case to be sure but despite numerous attempts to overturn the conviction and numerous hours investigating it the outcome is always clear that the law believes the conviction to be safe

[Andrea]

I dont think Bamber will ever have his convivtion overturned, goatboy. How many times has he applied to the CCRC, 2 or 3?

[jackiepreece]

Goatboy reference your last sentance why would the Bamber case have a place on this forum if you do not want to discuss if Bamber is innocent or guilty.

If everyone on here believes Bamber is guilty and will never be released why is the case still on here?

[jackiepreece]

Andrea how do you explain if Jeremy had just shot Sheila's two children she would just lie in the right position for Jeremy to shoot her in the neck.

Not ONE shred of evidence showing that Sheila fought back against Jeremy if he was the killer

Not a mark not a bruise ?????

[John]

David I am trying to keep to the facts more than the people who 'make out' Jeremy hated farming, hated Sheila and hated his parents !!!! Was in the process of buying a Porche and his photo was the only one missing from Nanny Speakmans bedroom or Sheila had never been on a shooting holiday !!!

It is a fact Colin had asked Neville to handle the tricky problem of telling Sheila she should have LESS time with her children because of Colin's worries.
It is a FACT because the letter exists !!!


'Last week, the Guardian was passed a letter, written by Sheila's ex-husband, Colin Caffell, to Nevill Bamber. In it, Caffell expresses deep concern about Sheila's mental state and asks his father-in law-to "try and convince Sheila that it would be better for her and the boys if they stayed with me most of the time".

Ferguson says if Nevill had pleaded Caffell's case to Sheila, it could have had a "potentially catastrophic effect on her".

As a result, he says, "she may have projected on to her father a concept of evil".'

David you posted this:

'There is no basis for any of this discussion as it is pure speculation.'

I totally disagree if you want to discuss the Bamber case I think this is a basis for discussion.
Sheila's doctor 'THE EXPERT' said if Neville had been the person who told Sheila she should be spending less time with her children
'Ferguson says if Nevill had pleaded Caffell's case to Sheila, it could have had a "potentially catastrophic effect on her".
As a result, he says, "she may have projected on to her father a concept of evil".'

None of us know exactly what happened on that last journey to WHF between Sheila and Colin except he rejected her when she had asked to get back with him. He told her he was with someone else.
We don't know exactly what was said at that last meal at WHF but we know for a fact Colin asked Neville to speak to Sheila about Colin should be spending more time with the children and her less.

We also know the statistics for people with Sheila's condition committing suicide are very high especially if the person uses canabis

None of us know what happened at WHF but we can only speculate what really happened and how poor Sheila was really coping

As for the bible why was it destroyed when police officers and the family suspected Jeremy from the beginning?

I suspect there are more details about the bible in file one which the defence have NOT been allowed to see and who really believes Jeremy would have known which page to leave the bible open on?
Does anyone really believe Sheila would have laid down and let Jeremy shoot her after he had killed her children.
Does anyone really believe she wouldn't have been like a crazed women and be covered in bruises??

Regardless of your reference to a letter which honestly is proof of nothing really and your speculations Jack, the evidence is that there were no arguments or rows the night before the murders.  Sheila was quiet and subdued when her auntie Pamela spoke to her before speaking to June.  If there had been anything untoward that evening then Pamela would have known about it..

[John]

Andrea how do you explain if Jeremy had just shot Sheila's two children she would just lie in the right position for Jeremy to shoot her in the neck.

Not ONE shred of evidence showing that Sheila fought back against Jeremy if he was the killer

Not a mark not a bruise ?????

If I held a loaded rifle to your throat Jackie would you move?   And Sheila was shot standing up with her head back.

[sika]

Goatboy reference your last sentance why would the Bamber case have a place on this forum if you do not want to discuss if Bamber is innocent or guilty.

If everyone on here believes Bamber is guilty and will never be released why is the case still on here?

I personally still argue the case because I feel massively frustrated that people continue to believe in Bambers innocence.
Honestly Jackie, just step back and look at the case impartially. What persuades you to give him the benefit of the doubt?