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Offline carlymichelle

https://www.9news.com.au/2018/10/08/14/25/madeleine-mccann-alive-held-captive-david-edgar-theory-no-evidence-former-editor-claims


There is "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive and living with her abductor in Portugal, according to a former leading UK newspaper editor.

Last week a retired UK detective claimed Maddie, who would now be 15 years old, was probably still somewhere in Portugal, and could even remain held captive in the small Algarve coastal town where she vanished more than 11 years ago.

Ex-cop David Edgar told British tabloid The Sun how he believed Maddie may not even be aware that she has been the subject of a massive worldwide search which began in May 2007.

But the recently retired editor of The Sunday Express, Martin Townsend, today described Edgar as being "wedded" to that theory since being hired by the McCanns in 2008.

Appearing on Channel Nine's TODAY, Townsend was asked if there was any evidence which backed up Edgar's belief. "No, none whatsoever," he replied.

"It is a theory that David Edgar, this detective, has actually expounded before. He is absolutely wedded to it," Townsend added.
Taken in 2009, private investigator Dave Edgar with McCann spokesman Clarence Mitchell holding an e-fit of a 'Victoria Beckham lookalike' they believe may have information about missing Madeleine McCann. (Getty)
Taken in 2009, private investigator Dave Edgar with McCann spokesman Clarence Mitchell holding an e-fit of a 'Victoria Beckham lookalike' they believe may have information about missing Madeleine McCann. (Getty) ()

Edgar, now aged 61, worked for Kate and Gerry McCann from 2008 until 2011, which is when London's Metropolitan Police launched Operation Grange to review and investigate Madeleine's mysterious disappearance.
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Of all the British newspapers, it was The Express group, including Townsend's The Sunday Express, which took the most aggressive stance on Madeleine's case, and unproven theories about the possible involvement of her parents.

Mr and Mrs McCann have always steadfastly denied any knowledge of how their daughter vanished and disputed many of the stories and headlines which appeared in The Express newspaper group. In 2008 the couple from Rothley, Leicestershire successfully sued The Express group for 550,000.

Townsend told Channel Nine there was "some sort of logic" to Edgar's theory, which arose from a potential line of inquiry a pedophile gang stole Maddie.

"The window of opportunity to abduct [Madeleine] was so small that the operation to take her from that holiday apartment must have been very well thought through," Townsend said.
Madeleine Beth McCann vanished in May 2007 while on holiday with her family in Praia da Luz, Portugal. The case remains unsolved. (Supplied)
Madeleine Beth McCann vanished in May 2007 while on holiday with her family in Praia da Luz, Portugal. The case remains unsolved. (Supplied) (AAP)

The one-time Portuguese lead detective on the case, Goncalo Amaral, wrote an explosive book in 2008, hypothesising an unproven theory that Maddie died in apartment 5A and her abduction had been simulated.

Several months after Maddie vanished Mr and Mrs McCann were declared arguidos, a kind of formal suspect, but that legal status was lifted when the case was shelved in 2008.

Townsend said Mr and Mrs McCann have come under "tremendous pressure" and the search for Madeleine had taken an enormous toll on the pair.

"They are still absolutely committed to finding their daughter," Townsend said.

"They have never given up hope both parents think she is in Portugal somewhere, and hopefully still alive."

Operation Grange has cost British taxpayers more than $20 million.

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Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2018, 09:28:01 AM »
I rather think she is living in another country.
What are you doing to find Madeleine?

Offline Brietta

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2018, 09:35:35 AM »
There is no evidence that Madeleine is not alive.

Which makes one wonder at the motives behind those who desperately push an agenda that she is dead and therefore it is a waste of money trying to locate her or to find out what happened to her after her parents put her to bed on 3rd May 2007.
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline Angelo222

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2018, 09:37:54 AM »
I rather think she is living in another country.

It's all hocus pocus Robbie. Redwood knew what her fate was but he had neither the time, cooperation or resources to find her.  Her remains lie undiscovered in Luz to this day imo.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2018, 09:40:26 AM by Angelo222 »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

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Offline Davel

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2018, 09:43:59 AM »
It's all hocus pocus Robbie. Redwood knew what her fate was but he had neither the time, cooperation or resources to find her.  Her remains lie undiscovered in Luz to this day imo.

Quite possible... But their is no proof of death
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Offline Davel

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2018, 09:47:30 AM »
https://www.9news.com.au/2018/10/08/14/25/madeleine-mccann-alive-held-captive-david-edgar-theory-no-evidence-former-editor-claims


There is "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive and living with her abductor in Portugal, according to a former leading UK newspaper editor.

Last week a retired UK detective claimed Maddie, who would now be 15 years old, was probably still somewhere in Portugal, and could even remain held captive in the small Algarve coastal town where she vanished more than 11 years ago.

Ex-cop David Edgar told British tabloid The Sun how he believed Maddie may not even be aware that she has been the subject of a massive worldwide search which began in May 2007.

But the recently retired editor of The Sunday Express, Martin Townsend, today described Edgar as being "wedded" to that theory since being hired by the McCanns in 2008.

Appearing on Channel Nine's TODAY, Townsend was asked if there was any evidence which backed up Edgar's belief. "No, none whatsoever," he replied.

"It is a theory that David Edgar, this detective, has actually expounded before. He is absolutely wedded to it," Townsend added.
Taken in 2009, private investigator Dave Edgar with McCann spokesman Clarence Mitchell holding an e-fit of a 'Victoria Beckham lookalike' they believe may have information about missing Madeleine McCann. (Getty)
Taken in 2009, private investigator Dave Edgar with McCann spokesman Clarence Mitchell holding an e-fit of a 'Victoria Beckham lookalike' they believe may have information about missing Madeleine McCann. (Getty) ()

Edgar, now aged 61, worked for Kate and Gerry McCann from 2008 until 2011, which is when London's Metropolitan Police launched Operation Grange to review and investigate Madeleine's mysterious disappearance.
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Of all the British newspapers, it was The Express group, including Townsend's The Sunday Express, which took the most aggressive stance on Madeleine's case, and unproven theories about the possible involvement of her parents.

Mr and Mrs McCann have always steadfastly denied any knowledge of how their daughter vanished and disputed many of the stories and headlines which appeared in The Express newspaper group. In 2008 the couple from Rothley, Leicestershire successfully sued The Express group for 550,000.

Townsend told Channel Nine there was "some sort of logic" to Edgar's theory, which arose from a potential line of inquiry a pedophile gang stole Maddie.

"The window of opportunity to abduct [Madeleine] was so small that the operation to take her from that holiday apartment must have been very well thought through," Townsend said.
Madeleine Beth McCann vanished in May 2007 while on holiday with her family in Praia da Luz, Portugal. The case remains unsolved. (Supplied)
Madeleine Beth McCann vanished in May 2007 while on holiday with her family in Praia da Luz, Portugal. The case remains unsolved. (Supplied) (AAP)

The one-time Portuguese lead detective on the case, Goncalo Amaral, wrote an explosive book in 2008, hypothesising an unproven theory that Maddie died in apartment 5A and her abduction had been simulated.

Several months after Maddie vanished Mr and Mrs McCann were declared arguidos, a kind of formal suspect, but that legal status was lifted when the case was shelved in 2008.

Townsend said Mr and Mrs McCann have come under "tremendous pressure" and the search for Madeleine had taken an enormous toll on the pair.

"They are still absolutely committed to finding their daughter," Townsend said.

"They have never given up hope both parents think she is in Portugal somewhere, and hopefully still alive."

Operation Grange has cost British taxpayers more than $20 million.

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Another inaccurate article... The McCanns don't think Maddie is, alive... They think there is a chance she may be alive... And they are ofcourse correct
UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED ALL POSTS ARE MY OPINION

Offline xtina

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2018, 10:01:00 AM »
Quite possible... But their is no proof of death


In my opinion that says it all......

judging by the public reaction .... I believe that is there thought to...

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Appearing on Channel Nine's TODAY, Townsend was asked if there was any evidence which backed up Edgar's belief. "No, none whatsoever," he replied.
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Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2018, 10:01:53 AM »
Another inaccurate article... The McCanns don't think Maddie is, alive... They think there is a chance she may be alive... And they are ofcourse correct
And they are Australian dollars too.
What are you doing to find Madeleine?

Offline Angelo222

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2018, 10:25:18 AM »
And they are Australian dollars too.

It's over $22 million Aussie dollars in actualment.  It's so very sad though that Maddie has become so well known all over the planet for all the wrong reasons.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2018, 10:27:29 AM by Angelo222 »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Eleanor

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2018, 10:33:55 AM »
I rather think she is living in another country.

So do I.

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Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2018, 10:41:48 AM »
I can understand the parents of a missing child clinging to the hope that she's still alive somewhere out there. I can't understand an ex policeman encouraging that belief when he seems to have no evidence to support what he says. It's very unprofessional in my opinion. 
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Offline carlymichelle

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2018, 10:42:47 AM »
It's over $22 million Aussie dollars in actualment.  It's so very sad though that Maddie has become so well known all over the planet for all the wrong reasons.

mark is the only journalist in  australia   who   doesnt believe  the mcanns he  cant stand them

Offline Eleanor

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2018, 10:46:41 AM »
I think Operation Grange has surveillance of Madeleine McCann on the ground in a foreign country.  The bills for which would be submitted and paid retrospectively.

A minor cannot be snatched from the streets of a foreign country, certainly not without a chain of evidence, which would be very difficult to obtain.

It could well be a different story once Madeleine is 16.

Offline Faithlilly

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2018, 10:49:30 AM »
I can understand the parents of a missing child clinging to the hope that she's still alive somewhere out there. I can't understand an ex policeman encouraging that belief when he seems to have no evidence to support what he says. It's very unprofessional in my opinion.

And cruel.
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Detractors of the work of our British Police in bringing criminals to justice generally ignore the important distinction between moral proof and legal evidence of guilt. In not a few cases that are popularly classed with 'unsolved mysteries of crime,' the offender is known, but evidence is wanting. If, for example, in- a recent murder case of special notoriety and interest,* certain human remains had not been found in a cellar, a great crime would have been catalogued among `Police failures'; and yet, even without the evidence which sent the murderer to the gallows, the moral proof of his guilt would have been full and clear.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2018, 10:50:20 AM »
mark is the only journalist in  australia   who   doesnt believe  the mcanns he  cant stand them

What about the other Australian Journalists?