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Offline Faithlilly

Re: The Madeleine Fund beginnings.
« Reply #165 on: October 18, 2018, 12:12:18 AM »
The parents must have known that with the case shelved in Portugal and SY having no jurisdiction there if a review was granted it would be toothless. However it would make people think ‘well if they were guilty why would they have asked for a review ‘.

TBH I don’t think the parents believed a review would be granted and when Rebecca Brooks suggested the Sun spearhead a campaign in conjunction with the book serialisation to force the PM’s hand what could they say ?
'She ( Kate) did, she brought it up and that she, I mean, this is awful in retrospect as well, she asked what my opinion was on, erm, tut, on whether they were okay leaving the, the doors unlocked, because she was saying 'Is it better that if Madeleine wakes up she can get out and find us or', erm, 'or locking it and, you know, finding that we're not there and the door's locked if she woke up', because Madeleine had woken up, what I thought was the night before. Erm, tut, and it was in that context really, just asking, you know, what I thought. So it was obviously something that was on her mind a bit, huh'.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The Madeleine Fund beginnings.
« Reply #166 on: October 18, 2018, 07:21:18 AM »
The parents must have known that with the case shelved in Portugal and SY having no jurisdiction there if a review was granted it would be toothless. However it would make people think ‘well if they were guilty why would they have asked for a review ‘.

TBH I don’t think the parents believed a review would be granted and when Rebecca Brooks suggested the Sun spearhead a campaign in conjunction with the book serialisation to force the PM’s hand what could they say ?
So why ask for one in the first place?  Why relentlessly try and keep the spotlight on your own crimes?  Surely by asking for a review there is a real risk you will get one?  It’s madness!
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Offline Faithlilly

Re: The Madeleine Fund beginnings.
« Reply #167 on: October 18, 2018, 09:24:20 AM »
So why ask for one in the first place?  Why relentlessly try and keep the spotlight on your own crimes?  Surely by asking for a review there is a real risk you will get one?  It’s madness!

Your post illustrates exactly why someone would ask for a review.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2018, 10:16:16 AM by John »
'She ( Kate) did, she brought it up and that she, I mean, this is awful in retrospect as well, she asked what my opinion was on, erm, tut, on whether they were okay leaving the, the doors unlocked, because she was saying 'Is it better that if Madeleine wakes up she can get out and find us or', erm, 'or locking it and, you know, finding that we're not there and the door's locked if she woke up', because Madeleine had woken up, what I thought was the night before. Erm, tut, and it was in that context really, just asking, you know, what I thought. So it was obviously something that was on her mind a bit, huh'.

Offline sadie

Re: The Madeleine Fund beginnings.
« Reply #168 on: October 18, 2018, 09:29:48 AM »
The parents must have known that with the case shelved in Portugal and SY having no jurisdiction there if a review was granted it would be toothless. However it would make people think ‘well if they were guilty why would they have asked for a review ‘.

TBH I don’t think the parents believed a review would be granted and when Rebecca Brooks suggested the Sun spearhead a campaign in conjunction with the book serialisation to force the PM’s hand what could they say ?

Thank you.   

They must have been over the moon at such help, but Cameron seemed very much in support of the review to me.  Are you sure he was "forced" ?   Cos it didn't seem that way to me.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2018, 10:14:09 AM by John »

Offline sadie

Re: The Madeleine Fund beginnings.
« Reply #169 on: October 18, 2018, 09:33:23 AM »
Your post illustrates exactly why someone would ask for a review.

Erm?   Are we understanding the same language ?   Your answer doesn't make sense to me.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2018, 10:16:54 AM by John »

Offline G-Unit

Re: The Madeleine Fund beginnings.
« Reply #170 on: October 18, 2018, 10:45:21 AM »
So why ask for one in the first place?  Why relentlessly try and keep the spotlight on your own crimes?  Surely by asking for a review there is a real risk you will get one?  It’s madness!

I think the idea was to shine a spotlight on the mishandling of crimes against children and the mistreatment of the McCanns by the authorities and by the media.

There are lessons to be learned for the future, in terms of both the handling of crimes against children and the
treatment we have received from the authorities and the media, and if some good can come out of our
experience, it is that the mistakes made will not be repeated.[madeleine]

If that's what Kate McCann was expecting from the review she's doomed to be disappointed in my opinion. 
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Offline Sunny

Re: The Madeleine Fund beginnings.
« Reply #171 on: October 18, 2018, 01:15:20 PM »
Thank you.   

They must have been over the moon at such help, but Cameron seemed very much in support of the review to me.  Are you sure he was "forced" ?   Cos it didn't seem that way to me.

So you didn't watch Leveson then sadie.  I had no interest in the case at the time but I did with the Leveson Enquiry and hacking.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2018, 10:13:03 AM by John »
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: The Madeleine Fund beginnings.
« Reply #172 on: October 18, 2018, 01:48:41 PM »
So you didn't watch Leveson then sadie.  I had no interest in the case at the time but I did with the Leveson Enquiry and hacking.

I posted this sometime ago:
https://www.scribd.com/document/93242009/Full-Transcript-of-Rebekah-Brooks-Testimony-to-Leveson-Inquiry

from roughly page 96 to about 120 as I recall.
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Offline Davel

Re: The Madeleine Fund beginnings.
« Reply #173 on: October 18, 2018, 03:32:09 PM »
Perhaps you can explain why the McCanns didn't request the Portuguese police to carry out a review Davel.

they didnt trust them ..
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Offline barrier

Re: The Madeleine Fund beginnings.
« Reply #174 on: October 18, 2018, 03:39:51 PM »
they didnt trust them ..

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Offline Sunny

Re: The Madeleine Fund beginnings.
« Reply #175 on: October 18, 2018, 03:44:15 PM »
they didnt trust them ..

I wonder if the feeling was mutual Davel.
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