Author Topic: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata  (Read 5465 times)

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Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2018, 07:11:53 PM »
I thought it was a judge  (in the documentary) who rule that the dogs were unreliable evidence.

That's correct, Rob. The cadaver dogs' alerts were ruled inadmissible in Zapata's first trial.

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Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2018, 07:32:07 PM »
That's correct, Rob. The cadaver dogs' alerts were ruled inadmissible in Zapata's first trial.
OK the prosecution could have tried to use the cadaver dog evidence, and the defence objected , and the judge made a ruling.  There would be a bit more to it than just the judge making a ruling from the start IMO.
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Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2018, 07:34:11 PM »
IMO They were vconcerned about the IMO incompetent PJ... Amaral was convinced he could prove Maddie died in the apartment

Your post is too much opinion Davel please use IMO from now on please.
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Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2018, 07:45:07 PM »
OK the prosecution could have tried to use the cadaver dog evidence, and the defence objected , and the judge made a ruling.  There would be a bit more to it than just the judge making a ruling from the start IMO.

I believe it was as the result of the dogs' high rate of failure in a series of tests.
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Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2018, 07:54:29 PM »
I believe it was as the result of the dogs' high rate of failure in a series of tests.
That was mentioned as well, but not in the documentary in the OP.  "No more reliable than a toss of a coin"  I recall those words.  Even though I disagreed with the judge on this point, for a coin toss is 50 50 not 70 - 30.  A 70% reliability is better than a coin toss.
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Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2018, 08:04:51 PM »
IMO They were vconcerned about the IMO incompetent PJ.. IMO.. Amaral was convinced he could prove Maddie died in the apartment
Was that all opinion? 
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Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2018, 08:05:05 PM »
IMO They were vconcerned about the IMO incompetent PJ..... Amaral was convinced he could prove Maddie died in the apartment

In my opinion they were concerned that they might be taken back to Portugal. It was the lawyers who advised them to get out quickly.
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Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2018, 08:05:08 PM »
Your post is too much opinion Davel please use IMO from now on please.

I've used imo... Look again
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« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2018, 08:06:32 PM »
In my opinion they were concerned that they might be taken back to Portugal. It was the lawyers who advised them to get out quickly.

I agree with you... And when we have amaral thinking he could prove mafdie died in the apartment they had every reason to fear
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Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2018, 08:12:56 PM »
I agree with you... And when we have amaral thinking he could prove mafdie died in the apartment they had every reason to fear
But do you know if Amaral thought like that in Sept 2007?
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Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2018, 08:14:49 PM »
Try and talk Zapata please.  - make your posts relevant to the topic.
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« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2018, 08:15:40 PM »
But do you know if Amaral thought like that in Sept 2007?
According to his book.. Yes
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Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2018, 08:20:17 PM »
According to his book.. Yes
Which came out in 2008.  What evidence of this in Sept 2007?
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« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2018, 08:21:36 PM »
Which came out in 2008.  What evidence of this in Sept 2007?

Because he describes how he felt in 2007...have you read his book
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Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2018, 08:24:23 PM »
Because he describes how he felt in 2007...have you read his book
Of course I have but we were discussing why the McCanns got out of Portugal.  I don't think you can use arguments that only become apparent later.
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