Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata

[Eleanor]

The bdo report does not name eddie....I never claimed it did...i copy and pasted a part so my post is accurate


iT then went on the refer to the dog in question as eddie...because as most of us know...it was eddie

the smelling bone is  a bit of humor based on the "if it walks like a duck" saying....I did answer and explained it.

I dont think there is anymore to say

Thank You.  That would be good.

[Robittybob1]

The problem was that Eddie wasn't a proper Cadaver Dog.  He had been taught too many old tricks, so not even Martin Grime knew what the dog was alerting to.

Mr Grime trained Eddie and from what I've read his success during tests were in the high 90's.    Why say "too many old tricks" when Grime is reported saying he doesn't teach his dog to do tricks?

It is not up to Mr Grime to know what Eddie was alerting to.  He was willing for forensic scientists and detectives to come in behind him and corroborate Eddie's alert.

[Eleanor]

Mr Grime trained Eddie and from what I've read his success during tests were in the high 90's.    Why say "too many old tricks" when Grime is reported saying he doesn't teach his dog to do tricks?

It is not up to Mr Grime to know what Eddie was alerting to.  He was willing for forensic scientists and detectives to come in behind him and corroborate Eddie's alert.

Eddie was trained initially as a Victim Recovery Dog.  This means Dead or Alive.

[Robittybob1]

Eddie was trained initially as a Victim Recovery Dog.  This means Dead or Alive.

SIL is trying to train his dog as a cadaver dog.  I would say he is struggling to come up with ideas to progress his training.   

So what if Eddie was a VRD at some stage.  Eddie was a playful puppy too before that.

I can't tell anyone about training a VRD or a EVRD as I have never attempted it.

[Mr Gray]

SIL is trying to train his dog as a cadaver dog.  I would say he is struggling to come up with ideas to progress his training.   

So what if Eddie was a VRD at some stage.  Eddie was a playful puppy too before that.

I can't tell anyone about training a VRD or a EVRD as I have never attempted it.

from what Ive read training is not difficult.....but only  a dog with certain traits can be trained

[pathfinder73]

Eddie was trained initially as a Victim Recovery Dog.  This means Dead or Alive.

A cadaver dog is a VRD so what are you going on about?

[Robittybob1]

from what Ive read training is not difficult.....but only  a dog with certain traits can be trained

Once again I don't know about any of that, but I do have recollection of this video about dogs doing a double blind test (they might have been drug dogs) but they were all sorts of breeds.    When I looked at it I thought "how ridiculous this was!".

A cadaver dog is a VRD so what are you going on about?

There are different grades of cadaver dogs.  VRD and EVRD labels have been changed in the "White" papers.

The E of EVRD meant the dogs were trained with Human remains.

[Eleanor]

SIL is trying to train his dog as a cadaver dog.  I would say he is struggling to come up with ideas to progress his training.   

So what if Eddie was a VRD at some stage.  Eddie was a playful puppy too before that.

I can't tell anyone about training a VRD or a EVRD as I have never attempted it.

There was only ever one EVRD.  This should tell you something.

You want a Dachshund?  He finds dead bodies everywhere.  Birds, Mice, Lizards, Frogs.  And then he eats them.

Actually, I think he is trying to dig his way to New Zealand in pursuit of Badgers.  Could you watch out for him.  His name is O'Connor and he's a little swine.

[Eleanor]

from what Ive read training is not difficult.....but only  a dog with certain traits can be trained

All dogs can find a Cadaver if there is one.

[Robittybob1]

All dogs can find a Cadaver if there is one.

A police cadaver dog that eats the evidence would be funny to watch!

[Eleanor]

Once again I don't know about any of that, but I do have recollection of this video about dogs doing a double blind test (they might have been drug dogs) but they were all sorts of breeds.    When I looked at it I thought "how ridiculous this was!".
There are different grades of cadaver dogs.  VRD and EVRD labels have been changed in the "White" papers.

The E of EVRD meant the dogs were trained with Human remains.

Eddie was the only EVRD ever.  He was never trained on human remains before he went to Portugal or Jersey

[Eleanor]

A police cadaver dog that eats the evidence would be funny to watch!

It could certainly cause problems.  And even more funny if it chucked the remains in the air.

[pathfinder73]

Once again I don't know about any of that, but I do have recollection of this video about dogs doing a double blind test (they might have been drug dogs) but they were all sorts of breeds.    When I looked at it I thought "how ridiculous this was!".
There are different grades of cadaver dogs.  VRD and EVRD labels have been changed in the "White" papers.

The E of EVRD meant the dogs were trained with Human remains.

Nonsense. A cadaver dog and VRD are the same. E was for the Enhanced Training.

[Robittybob1]

A police cadaver dog that eats the evidence would be funny to watch!

Imagine the headlines "Eddie eats Maddie".

[Eleanor]

Nonsense. A cadaver dog and VRD are the same. E was for the Enhanced Training.

Enhanced Training in what?