Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata

[Mr Gray]

So what did the cadaver dog alerts actually tell us then?

Grimes words... It is possible the dog is alerting to cadaverine contaminant.... According to Grime he trains dogs to help find forensically recoverable evidence

[Mr Gray]

Not a lot, as far as I can see.

Nothing we didn't already know... Imo... They tell us it is possible there was, a cadaver in 5a...

[Lace]

I don't know what you mean by 'reliable', but I believe that Grime's evidence could have been used in court as part of a body of circumstantial evidence just as a dog handler's evidence was used in the Suzanne Pilley case.

I doubt it very much.   The court would only have to see Eddie passing by the bedroom only to be called back.  him playing with Cuddle Cat, playing with the clothes  and passing by the car to be called back. IMO

[The General]

Nothing we didn't already know... Imo... They tell us it is possible there was, a cadaver in 5a...

...and a little girl is missing at the same time. 'What could it mean, Holmes?' 'I have no idea, Watson, but there would appear to be some sort of link'.

[Lace]

So what did the cadaver dog alerts actually tell us then?

They tell us that Eddie smelt 'something'   having been called back numerous times.    As Eddie was trained to alert to blood decomposing body parts,   who knows what he smelt.   Other families stayed in 5a before the dogs were brought in.


What I can't understand is how the items of clothing that Eddie alerted to { well I say alerted to, cadaver dogs are trained not to touch evidence, yet Eddie picked them up with his teeth]   were side by side how weird is that what are the odds of that happening?

[Mr Gray]

...and a little girl is missing at the same time. 'What could it mean, Holmes?' 'I have no idea, Watson, but there would appear to be some sort of link'.

And there again there might not.. It really is that simple
Harrison goes further and says no inference can be drawn from the alerts

[Lace]

...and a little girl is missing at the same time. 'What could it mean, Holmes?' 'I have no idea, Watson, but there would appear to be some sort of link'.

 It means 'Holmes'  that they should have been out looking for an abductor IMO

[The General]

And there again there might not.. It really is that simple
Harrison goes further and says no inference can be drawn from the alerts

Bit of a coincidence isn't it? Alerts in the apartment where a little girl was missing from, but not in any other apartments? What's the chances?

[Lace]

Bit of a coincidence isn't it? Alerts in the apartment where a little girl was missing from, but not in any other apartments? What's the chances?

They should have called Eddie back numerous times,  then maybe...

Strange though isn't it,   Eddie alerts to blood also,  yet no blood found in these other apartments,  neither fresh nor ancient,  very strange.

[The General]

They should have called Eddie back numerous times,  then maybe...

Strange though isn't it,   Eddie alerts to blood also,  yet no blood found in these other apartments,  neither fresh nor ancient,  very strange.

Yeh, curious. Maybe a fastidious cleaning regime?

[Lace]

Yeh, curious. Maybe a fastidious cleaning regime?

They would have a hell of a job trying to find it first wouldn't they [if it was ancient]

[The General]

They would have a hell of a job trying to find it first wouldn't they [if it was ancient]

Not if they cleaned it up when it wasn't ancient. It's a holiday resort, I'm fairly sure the cleaners will automatically clean blood quite vigorously for the next tenants.

[G-Unit]

I doubt it very much.   The court would only have to see Eddie passing by the bedroom only to be called back.  him playing with Cuddle Cat, playing with the clothes  and passing by the car to be called back. IMO

It's not up to judges, lawyers or juries to decide whether a dog performed satisfactorily or not.

[Mr Gray]

Bit of a coincidence isn't it? Alerts in the apartment where a little girl was missing from, but not in any other apartments? What's the chances?

It was only in 5a that the dig was, repeatedly called back to places he ignored... So it isn't strange... There us, a, simple, answer to prettyvwel all the points, sceptic think incriminate  the McCanns....and hence they are not suspects in either investigation...

[Mr Gray]

It's not up to judges, lawyers or juries to decide whether a dog performed satisfactorily or not.

Of course it is