Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata

[Mr Gray]

Mark Harrison didn't rate Krugel

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/Danie_Krugel.htm

And neither do I.

Is this true
Let’s turn momentarily to Danie Krugel. Contact with Krugel is initiated on June 9th, when at 21:48 Gerry calls him for 12 minutes 38 seconds. According to the records in the PJ Files, he had been recommended via email (also from South Africa). It will be over a month before Krugel arrives in Portugal. During this time – and just after he leaves – there are a smattering of contacts between Gerry, Krugel and Susan Puren (an South African investigative journalist). It is later said that whilst in Portugal, the McCanns effectively ignored Krugel, and when they finally met – before Krugel and Puren left – it was a very abrupt meeting in which the South Africans were ‘made to feel like they were meeting Royals’.
This is rather at odds with the fact that it was Gerry who initiated contact. Why initiate contact and request help, only to completely ignore that help until the last possible moment?
Whilst Krugel was on site, Mark Harrison was brought in – but more on that later.
Krugel produced a map, showing the areas he had searched, and which he felt would be worth further investigation.

http://gerrymccan-abuseofpower-humanrights.blogspot.com/2016/12/mccann-case-house-on-black-rock.html
Did Gerry Call, Danie Krugel in June 2007 and instigate the search by him?

Gerry may well have called.... They were desperate tobtry anything..

Christopher Hitchens... A lifelong vical atheist... Turned to God when he was about to die... That's, what desperation does to people

[Brietta]

Kate says how vulnerable and close to the edge they were and it wouldn't hurt to try it.. Try anything probably... That doesn't mean they were convinced it worked

Desperation forces desperate measures for the families of the missing ... and apparently Krugel claimed success in finding the living as well as the dead.  So worth a try ... what else was happening?

[Sunny]

Gerry may well have called.... They were desperate tobtry anything..

Christopher Hitchens... A lifelong vical atheist... Turned to God when he was about to die... That's, what desperation does to people

Davel so you change from "I've read the site extensively... I don't see the McCann's saying they trusted him" to they instigated the contact with Krugel. Whether they trusted him or not it was their decision to use him to search.  The police didn't think much of his wonderful machine it appears.

[Mr Gray]

Davel so you change from "I've read the site extensively... I don't see the McCann's saying they trusted him" to they instigated the contact with Krugel. Whether they trusted him or not it was their decision to use him to search.  The police didn't think much of his wonderful machine it appears.

Don't accuse me of changing.... They instigated contact... If you read the part of the book you linked to you will see.. They didn't appear to have, a lot of faith but were, desperate to try anything

[Eleanor]

Did The Laboratory find any Forensic Evidence on Cuddle Cat?  Kate had it back in no time at all.

[Mr Gray]

Did The Laboratory find any Forensic Evidence on Cuddle Cat?  Kate had it back in no time at all.

I don't think they bothered to test it

[G-Unit]

Kate says how vulnerable and close to the edge they were and it wouldn't hurt to try it.. Try anything probably... That doesn't mean they were convinced it worked

For a woman who describes herself as a scientist she didn't mind considering unscientific possibilities like psychics and weird machines. Then she criticised cadaver dogs as unscientific lol. 

[Erngath]

For a woman who describes herself as a scientist she didn't mind considering unscientific possibilities like psychics and weird machines. Then she criticised cadaver dogs as unscientific lol.

If your child was missing wouldn't you clutch at any hope?

[Brietta]

For a woman who describes herself as a scientist she didn't mind considering unscientific possibilities like psychics and weird machines. Then she criticised cadaver dogs as unscientific lol.

Did she?  Cites required for both assertions, please.

[G-Unit]

If your child was missing wouldn't you clutch at any hope?

No. Psychics, in my opinion, are deluded at best and charlatans at worst. I would never consult then or take notice of them. Krugel would go into my 'crank' pile.

[Robittybob1]

Keela was trained to alert to blood and nothing else.

'Keela' The Crime Scene Investigation (C.S.I.) dog will search for and locate human

blood to such small proportions that it is unlikely to be recovered by the forensic

science procedures in place at this time due to its size or placement.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_PERSONAL.htm

But does he describe what she found. Maybe it was "traces of blood  to such small proportions that it is unlikely to be recovered by the forensic science procedures in place at this time due to its size or placement".

Blood on knife,  wash that knife clean 3 times.  Keela still can detect blood on the knife!!!  Was there blood on the knife?  It beats me as to what is on the knife after being washed 3 times!  Has some part of it penetrated the metal?

[G-Unit]

Did she?  Cites required for both assertions, please.

Please take note of my compliance. Unlike some, I don't ignore requests for cites.

We’re scientists and we don’t believe in hocus pocus or crackpot inventions

The dogs ultimately ‘alerted’. I felt myself starting to relax a little. This was not what I would call an exact science
[madeleine]

[Erngath]

Please take note of my compliance. Unlike some, I don't ignore requests for cites.

We’re scientists and we don’t believe in hocus pocus or crackpot inventions

The dogs ultimately ‘alerted’. I felt myself starting to relax a little. This was not what I would call an exact science
[madeleine]

Until you were desperate enough to rely on " hocus pocus"
Some see prayers and religion as such.
Whatever you need at a time of deperation

[G-Unit]

But does he describe what she found. Maybe it was "traces of blood  to such small proportions that it is unlikely to be recovered by the forensic science procedures in place at this time due to its size or placement".

Blood on knife  wash that knife clean 3 times.  Keela still can detect blood on the knife?  Was there blood on the knife?  It beats me as to what is on the knife after being washed 3 times!  Has some part of it penetrated the metal?

You have to accept that a dog's sense of smell is vastly superior to human sight and scientific tests. They can smell things that you can't see and scientists can't always test.

[G-Unit]

Until you were desperate enough to rely on " hocus pocus"
Some see prayers and religion as such.
Whatever you need at a time of deperation

I have experienced terrible desperation and heartbreak. I didn't turn to any if those things.