Author Topic: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata  (Read 294613 times)

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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1185 on: July 12, 2019, 02:42:12 AM »
Can you tell me where they would taken on a dark evening after the twins last nappy change?

Surely to the wheelie bins?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1186 on: July 12, 2019, 04:24:00 AM »
The twins were in nappies. The nappies would contain urine as the baby wipes would also. Those nappies would have been put in the bin.

There was no alert to the bin or the twins cots.
What evidence is there that cadaver dogs alert to urine? 
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Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1187 on: July 12, 2019, 08:17:39 AM »
Sunny is long gone.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1188 on: July 12, 2019, 08:36:26 AM »
Sunny is long gone.
But the case goes on.
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Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1189 on: July 12, 2019, 08:39:19 AM »
But the case goes on.

But replying to their post's and expecting answers won't get you very far.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1190 on: July 12, 2019, 09:15:07 AM »
But replying to their post's and expecting answers won't get you very far.
It is a pretty general question.  No doubt Davel will know. 
Q.  What evidence is there that cadaver dogs alert to urine?
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Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1191 on: July 12, 2019, 09:18:48 AM »
It is a pretty general question.  No doubt Davel will know. 
Q.  What evidence is there that cadaver dogs alert to urine?

davel might tell  us he know's,whether he does is a matter of conjecture.
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Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1192 on: July 12, 2019, 09:23:28 AM »
It is a pretty general question.  No doubt Davel will know. 
Q.  What evidence is there that cadaver dogs alert to urine?



Cadaverine, the smell of which is officially classified as “unpleasant,” is responsible for the foul smell of rotting flesh and is also found in urine and semen. Putrescine, which smells fairly similar to cadaverine, is also what makes bad breath bad. Skatole — which is also found in coal tar — and indole are major components of feces. Strangely enough, skatole and indole are also used in low concentrations to develop flowery scents for perfumes.
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Offline jassi

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1193 on: July 12, 2019, 09:33:54 AM »
It occurs to me that if these dogs react to urine, they'd never get passed the first lamppost.
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Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1194 on: July 12, 2019, 09:45:25 AM »
It occurs to me that if these dogs react to urine, they'd never get passed the first lamppost.

Nor alot of stairwells
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Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1195 on: July 12, 2019, 09:53:07 AM »
It occurs to me that if these dogs react to urine, they'd never get passed the first lamppost.


Possibly stale urine and urine in a cadaver would be of a completely different chemical makeup,it'll take someone far cleverer than on here to fathom that one.
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Offline The General

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1196 on: July 12, 2019, 10:01:57 AM »

Possibly stale urine and urine in a cadaver would be of a completely different chemical makeup,it'll take someone far cleverer than on here to fathom that one.
Cleverer than Davros? I'm not sure such a person exists.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1197 on: July 12, 2019, 11:00:43 AM »
So it's established urine contains cadaverine so is it possible a dog would alert to stale urine... Bianca's seat
From what I can see the digs are not tested for other substances... When discussing false positives grime tals of 200 case searches.  He doesn't mention testing... The reason is clear imo

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Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1198 on: July 12, 2019, 11:05:55 AM »
So it's established urine contains cadaverine so is it possible a dog would alert to stale urine... Bianca's seat
From what I can see the digs are not tested for other substances... When discussing false positives grime tals of 200 case searches.  He doesn't mention testing... The reason is clear imo


Possibly stale urine and urine in a cadaver would be of a completely different chemical makeup,it'll take someone far cleverer than on here to fathom that one.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1199 on: July 12, 2019, 11:07:40 AM »


Your quote mentions urine... Not urine from a cadaver..
What's the link