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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1290 on: July 18, 2019, 08:36:02 PM »
Probably best for you not to comment on something you don't appear to understand
You are not presenting a comprehensive case. Someone with your self-proclaimed intellect should be able to knock up a comprehensive case. 
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1291 on: July 18, 2019, 08:41:17 PM »
Another one...I simply said he gave evidence.. You seem to want to argue over nothing
Grime gave evidence as he saw fit.. That's his job
And what did he testify exactly?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1292 on: July 18, 2019, 08:43:04 PM »
You are not presenting a comprehensive case. Someone with your self-proclaimed intellect should be able to knock up a comprehensive case.

I made, a, short post saying grime gave evidence..gunit doesn't want to accept that... It's that simple

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1293 on: July 18, 2019, 08:43:27 PM »
Another one...I simply said he gave evidence.. You seem to want to argue over nothing
Grime gave evidence as he saw fit.. That's his job

Different use of evidence.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1294 on: July 18, 2019, 08:43:41 PM »
And what did he testify exactly?

It's all on record

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1295 on: July 18, 2019, 08:44:10 PM »
Different use of evidence.

He gave evidence

Offline G-Unit

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1296 on: July 18, 2019, 08:44:26 PM »
the court referred to the alerts as evidence....grime testified ...according to the court report of the appeal...yo testify is to give evidence. THe alerts would ahve no value as evidence wirhout grimes testimony

Are you sure? Morse's ability was on record. The location of his alerts were a matter of record. What did Grime add?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1297 on: July 18, 2019, 08:47:06 PM »
It's all on record
Show us the record?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1298 on: July 18, 2019, 08:50:23 PM »
He gave evidence
One minute you use the term "testimony" , or "testify", and then equate testimony to evidence.

Now some testimony can be wrong.  Is it still "evidence" if the testimony of a witness is actually false.

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It wouldn't even need to be intentional,it might just be a error in judgement.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1299 on: July 18, 2019, 08:58:07 PM »
Another one...I simply said he gave evidence.. You seem to want to argue over nothing
Grime gave evidence as he saw fit.. That's his job

You actually said he presented the alerts as evidence. You gave the impression that that was somehow significant. I've been trying to discover what you meant, but it seems you're now saying that it meant nothing. I'm pleased we've cleared that up.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1300 on: July 18, 2019, 09:16:38 PM »
You actually said he presented the alerts as evidence. You gave the impression that that was somehow significant. I've been trying to discover what you meant, but it seems you're now saying that it meant nothing. I'm pleased we've cleared that up.

He did present the alerts, as evidence... Thst was significant

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1301 on: July 18, 2019, 09:17:49 PM »
Are you sure? Morse's ability was on record. The location of his alerts were a matter of record. What did Grime add?

Grime presented them in court... Testified... Gave evidence


https://caselaw.findlaw.com/mi-court-of-appeals/1683760.html

Grime testified that, after the vehicle screening, he took the dogs to an administrative building to screen the items removed from Dungey's car


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Offline G-Unit

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1302 on: July 18, 2019, 10:11:05 PM »
He did present the alerts, as evidence... Thst was significant

Sifnificant how?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1303 on: July 18, 2019, 10:13:10 PM »
Sifnificant how?

did you hear what then judge said about the alerts

"Those dogs that were used to find baby Bianca were very instrumental," Evans said. "They were taken to a house on Montgomery (Avenue). Of 10 rooms in the house, they went straight to the bedroom.

the judge said...very instrumenatl...thats sounds significant to me
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1304 on: July 18, 2019, 11:16:24 PM »
did you hear what then judge said about the alerts

"Those dogs that were used to find baby Bianca were very instrumental," Evans said. "They were taken to a house on Montgomery (Avenue). Of 10 rooms in the house, they went straight to the bedroom.

the judge said...very instrumenatl...thats sounds significant to me
Yes sounds significant but what does it mean?
"instrumental
adjective
1.
serving as a means of pursuing an aim or policy.
"the Society was instrumental in bringing about legislation"
synonyms:   involved, active, influential, contributory; helpful, of help/assistance, useful, of use/service; significant, important; play a part in, contribute to, be a factor in, be (partly) responsible for, have a hand in; add to, help, promote, advance, further, forward, oil the wheels of, open the door for, be conducive to, make for; lead to, cause, give rise to; formal conduce to
"he was instrumental in developing new diagnostic procedures""
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