Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata

[Eleanor]

You know nothing about the man but feel entitled to question his integrity. There's no evidence to suggest that finanual gain was his motivation. He served his term in the police and on retirement he offered his services to those who were willing to pay for them.

Mark Harrison quoted the costs charged by SYP for the dogs in 2007;

costs for the EVRD and CSI are available.
The daily rate for this dog team is 1000 Euros. Flight travel costs for handler and dogs could be 2750 Euros. Veterinary costs: U.K. and Portugal to comply with Pet Passports scheme 450 Euros. Accommodation, subsistence and vehicle transportation would incur extra charge.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

They were never a cheap option, but if you want the best you have to pay for it.

So long as you get the best, of course.

[Mr Gray]

You know nothing about the man but feel entitled to question his integrity. There's no evidence to suggest that finanual gain was his motivation. He served his term in the police and on retirement he offered his services to those who were willing to pay for them.

Mark Harrison quoted the costs charged by SYP for the dogs in 2007;

costs for the EVRD and CSI are available.
The daily rate for this dog team is 1000 Euros. Flight travel costs for handler and dogs could be 2750 Euros. Veterinary costs: U.K. and Portugal to comply with Pet Passports scheme 450 Euros. Accommodation, subsistence and vehicle transportation would incur extra charge.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

They were never a cheap option, but if you want the best you have to pay for it.

I feel entitled to question everything...isn't that your belief

Just because he is regarded as an expert and an expert witness does not make him right...experts have been shown to be wrong in the past

There is certainly one expert...more scientifically qualified than grime..who says remnant scent would not last three months

[Vertigo Swirl]

You know nothing about the man but feel entitled to question his integrity. There's no evidence to suggest that finanual gain was his motivation. He served his term in the police and on retirement he offered his services to those who were willing to pay for them.

Mark Harrison quoted the costs charged by SYP for the dogs in 2007;

costs for the EVRD and CSI are available.
The daily rate for this dog team is 1000 Euros. Flight travel costs for handler and dogs could be 2750 Euros. Veterinary costs: U.K. and Portugal to comply with Pet Passports scheme 450 Euros. Accommodation, subsistence and vehicle transportation would incur extra charge.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

They were never a cheap option, but if you want the best you have to pay for it.

Which independent arbiter of cadaver dog handlers would you go to for advice on who is the best?

[G-Unit]

What I do see is based  on the so called evidence provided by Grimes dogs posters are accusing the mccans of covering up their daughters death and using her death for their own financial gain

Based solely on the dog alerts? I don't think so.

[Mr Gray]

Based solely on the dog alerts? I don't think so.

In an article in the guardian re the libel trial .almeida said the main evidence against the McCanns was the dogs

[Vertigo Swirl]

Based solely on the dog alerts? I don't think so.

Take away the dog alerts and what have you got?  Pretty much nothing.

[Mr Gray]

Based solely on the dog alerts? I don't think so.

you accept the alerts play some role yet they have no evidential value

[G-Unit]

I feel entitled to question everything...isn't that your belief

Just because he is regarded as an expert and an expert witness does not make him right...experts have been shown to be wrong in the past

Questioning Grime's expertise is acceptable. You were questioning his personal integrity, which isn't.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Questioning Grime's expertise is acceptable. You were questioning his personal integrity, which isn't.

Why not?  The McCanns personal integrity is questioned relentlessly.

[Mr Gray]

Questioning Grime's expertise is acceptable. You were questioning his personal integrity, which isn't.

I haven't ..cite required

[Eleanor]

I haven't ..cite required

I'll second that.

[G-Unit]

In an article in the guardian re the libel trial .almeida said the main evidence against the McCanns was the dogs

I thought you were takling about internet posters?  In my opinion there were suspicions about the McCanns before Grime set foot in Portugal.

[Mr Gray]

I thought you were takling about internet posters?  In my opinion there were suspicions about the McCanns before Grime set foot in Portugal.

Im talking about the pj and internet...of course there were suspicions...thats quite normal and proper. whats normal then is to look at the evidence. The PJ thought there was evidence ...mainly the dogs. interent posters are the same. There isnt any real evidence in reality as confirmed by Pedro da Carmo

[G-Unit]

I haven't ..cite required

You inferred that his impending retirement affected how he behaved in Luz.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10341.msg547427#msg547427

[Mr Gray]

You inferred that his impending retirement affected how he behaved in Luz.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10341.msg547427#msg547427

it may well have done...not necessarily intentional.