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Re: Gordon Park and the murder of his wife Carol in 1976.
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2018, 06:01:22 PM »
How extraordinary that a man who claimed to have fully analysed this case should make a glaring mistake with the name of one type of knot used to tie up Carol Park.  A half hitch is the correct term, not half-stitch which is something completely different and used in needlework.

But then again Bob Woffinden was wrong about Jeremy Bamber first time round.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246355/Lady-Lake-killer-innocent-real-murderer-large-says-investigative-journalist.html

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Re: Gordon Park and the murder of his wife Carol in 1976.
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2018, 06:05:55 PM »
Another short documentary, amateur this time...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bICjoDVQ-Jw

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Re: Gordon Park and the murder of his wife Carol in 1976.
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2018, 10:33:59 AM »
How extraordinary that a man who claimed to have fully analysed this case should make a glaring mistake with the name of one type of knot used to tie up Carol Park.  A half hitch is the correct term, not half-stitch which is something completely different and used in needlework.

But then again Bob Woffinden was wrong about Jeremy Bamber first time round.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246355/Lady-Lake-killer-innocent-real-murderer-large-says-investigative-journalist.html

In "The Nicholas Cases", Woffinden does refer to "half-hitch" knots. Who is to say it wasn't the newspaper reporter who made the mistake?

It is true that Woffinden did change his mind about Bamber, but we don't know for certain that he was wrong!!

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Re: Gordon Park and the murder of his wife Carol in 1976.
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2018, 05:07:47 AM »
In "The Nicholas Cases", Woffinden does refer to "half-hitch" knots. Who is to say it wasn't the newspaper reporter who made the mistake?

It is true that Woffinden did change his mind about Bamber, but we don't know for certain that he was wrong!!
Maybe, but why didn't Woffinden correct it... his name headed the article in 2010 and he only died in 2018. And he definitely did get it right about JB second time around!

What I find impossible to believe is that Gordon Park wasn't responsible for the murder of his wife, despite this latest smoke and mirrors DNA rope trick. Who is to say that it didn't originate from contact with anyone, eg. the chandler/hardware store who sold it, the divers who recovered the trussed-up body, or the police and other investigators who later handled it?  Park might even have worn gloves when securing the package.

Or in fact why anyone (a lover, say) other than a husband who was at war with Carol for the control of their children, dominated her life to such an excessive degree, and was rumoured to be violent towards her, should go to such extreme lengths to make sure her body would never be recovered.   He was also proficient with knots, knew how to sail, was familiar with every part of Coniston water and imo deliberately evasive during police interviews.

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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2018, 12:17:30 PM »
Maybe, but why didn't Woffinden correct it... his name headed the article in 2010 and he only died in 2018. And he definitely did get it right about JB second time around!

What I find impossible to believe is that Gordon Park wasn't responsible for the murder of his wife, despite this latest smoke and mirrors DNA rope trick. Who is to say that it didn't originate from contact with anyone, eg. the chandler/hardware store who sold it, the divers who recovered the trussed-up body, or the police and other investigators who later handled it?  Park might even have worn gloves when securing the package.

Or in fact why anyone (a lover, say) other than a husband who was at war with Carol for the control of their children, dominated her life to such an excessive degree, and was rumoured to be violent towards her, should go to such extreme lengths to make sure her body would never be recovered.   He was also proficient with knots, knew how to sail, was familiar with every part of Coniston water and imo deliberately evasive during police interviews.

I've grown up with this murder - it was on local news regularly, especially when they found the body. Park was always the main suspect and I agree, the DNA may (in this case) be clouding the issue.

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Re: Gordon Park and the murder of his wife Carol in 1976.
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2018, 04:21:28 PM »
I've grown up with this murder - it was on local news regularly, especially when they found the body. Park was always the main suspect and I agree, the DNA may (in this case) be clouding the issue.
And I remember seeing Donald Campbell condemned to a watery grave in '67 until his body, whatever remained of it, was recovered 37 years later...

https://www.britishpathe.com/video/donald-campbell-dies-in-bluebird-crash

Forgot to add that Park only reported Carol's disappearance after six weeks, after being prompted to do so by her step-brother!  Even then he only contacted them through his solicitor, and PC Bob Lawson was prevented by Park from questioning their children about Carol's whereabouts. All highly suspicious.

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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2018, 11:30:10 PM »
And I remember seeing Donald Campbell condemned to a watery grave in '67 until his body, whatever remained of it, was recovered 37 years later...

https://www.britishpathe.com/video/donald-campbell-dies-in-bluebird-crash

Forgot to add that Park only reported Carol's disappearance after six weeks, after being prompted to do so by her step-brother!  Even then he only contacted them through his solicitor, and PC Bob Lawson was prevented by Park from questioning their children about Carol's whereabouts. All highly suspicious.

Oh my goodness.....SO guilty. IMO Park had a bit of a Richard Challen vibe going on, autistic and controlling. If I had loads of money, like, say....a podgy ex-barrister, I'd bet the farm on it.

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Re: Gordon Park and the murder of his wife Carol in 1976.
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2018, 07:46:59 AM »
And I remember seeing Donald Campbell condemned to a watery grave in '67 until his body, whatever remained of it, was recovered 37 years later...

https://www.britishpathe.com/video/donald-campbell-dies-in-bluebird-crash

Forgot to add that Park only reported Carol's disappearance after six weeks, after being prompted to do so by her step-brother!  Even then he only contacted them through his solicitor, and PC Bob Lawson was prevented by Park from questioning their children about Carol's whereabouts. All highly suspicious.


Yes, I remember when they found Donald Campbell too.

I think Park's children were a bit too young for questioning at the time.  However, as you say, his reaction to the police, and his only contacting them through his solicitor IS a bit suspect.

Carol had, apparently, "disappeared" before, and Gordon assumed she would be back before she began her job in September (she was a teacher). it was when she failed to reappear then that he reported her missing.

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Re: Gordon Park and the murder of his wife Carol in 1976.
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2018, 12:20:39 PM »

Yes, I remember when they found Donald Campbell too.

I think Park's children were a bit too young for questioning at the time.  However, as you say, his reaction to the police, and his only contacting them through his solicitor IS a bit suspect.

Carol had, apparently, "disappeared" before, and Gordon assumed she would be back before she began her job in September (she was a teacher). it was when she failed to reappear then that he reported her missing.
My first experience of a death "live" on TV... snuffed out in 30 seconds.  The stillness of the aftermath when his boat totally disappeared as if by magic struck the commentator speechless, as I remember it.

Odd too that Carol should leave without her rings, money and handbag, yet Park said she took jewellery and clothes, some of which were found near her submerged packaged body... and NO woman would EVER forget her handbag!

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Re: Gordon Park and the murder of his wife Carol in 1976.
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2018, 05:40:39 PM »
My first experience of a death "live" on TV... snuffed out in 30 seconds.  The stillness of the aftermath when his boat totally disappeared as if by magic struck the commentator speechless, as I remember it.

Odd too that Carol should leave without her rings, money and handbag, yet Park said she took jewellery and clothes, some of which were found near her submerged packaged body... and NO woman would EVER forget her handbag!

Well, I have to agree there-----or rather, no woman would be parted from her handbag!