What is 'science'

[Mr Gray]

She was wrong to use that as a reason for dismissing them though.

No she wasnt... It seems now it's acceptable to state opinion as fact

[G-Unit]

Science could provide a guide to reliability if proper scientific tests, were carried out....

Homeopaths claim they have evidence to show homeopathy works... Science has shown it doesn't.... Science can test and verify non scientific principles...
People claim esp is real... Science has shown it isnt

What is a 'proper scientific test'?

[Mr Gray]

What is a 'proper scientific test'?

There are lots of different  tests depending on what's being tested... In the case of the dogs it would be necessary  to decide what questions yo wanted answerred and design a, test that answerred the questions....

[G-Unit]

No she wasnt... It seems now it's acceptable to state opinion as fact

Yes she was. It was a straw man argument. It's like me saying behaviourism isn't an exact science. I know it's not and so do the behaviourists, so it's an irrelevant comparison.

[Alice Purjorick]

What is a 'proper scientific test'?

What seems to be being postulated here is that a "proper" scientific test is one where a nice convenient little box is established around it such that there are no unknown variables and all the conditions of all the variables may be changed independently of each other and recorded.

Unfortunately the luxury of complete knowledge is not always afforded in the real world, as variables, outside the nice little box, exist ad infinitum.
Empirical and iterative tests are perfectly acceptable.
Neither mechanics nor fluid dynamics are exact sciences   so what?

[G-Unit]

There are lots of different  tests depending on what's being tested... In the case of the dogs it would be necessary  to decide what questions yo wanted answerred and design a, test that answerred the questions....

I don't think you've grasped that 'science' can't always provide answers. Even worse, it can provide wrong answers. In my opinion the concentration on smoking has distracted attention from the harm caused by traffic pollution, which is only now being acknowledged.

[Mr Gray]

I don't think you've grasped that 'science' can't always provide answers. Even worse, it can provide wrong answers. In my opinion the concentration on smoking has distracted attention from the harm caused by traffic pollution, which is only now being acknowledged.

Science can test things... Such as the dogs.... It's very good at testing things.... Not perfect.... And it doesn't claim to be perfect

As you are a smoker I'm not surprise you defend it.... Prof Richard Doll proved the connection using epidemiolgy... It took 20 years

[Mr Gray]

I don't think you've grasped that 'science' can't always provide answers. Even worse, it can provide wrong answers. In my opinion the concentration on smoking has distracted attention from the harm caused by traffic pollution, which is only now being acknowledged.

Most informed people know that science can't provide all the answers.

[Eleanor]

If a member feels that they have been subjected to Goading, quoting the goading comment does not help me to correct that, should I feel there is a need.

[Alice Purjorick]

Science can test things... Such as the dogs.... It's very good at testing things.... Not perfect.... And it doesn't claim to be perfect

As you are a smoker I'm not surprise you defend it.... Prof Richard Doll proved the connection using epidemiolgy... It took 20 years

OK then let's take it as a given that "sniffer" dogs can be tested scientifically. Will you please delineate your preferred testing regime for the forum to comment on?

[Mr Gray]

OK then let's take it as a given that "sniffer" dogs can be tested scientifically. Will you please delineate your preferred testing regime for the forum to comment on?

What's the point... If posters haven't managed to grasp I have an in depth knowledge of science and scientific  method they are hardly likely to understand how a scientific  test is carried out

[Sunny]

What's the point... If posters haven't managed to grasp I have an in depth knowledge of science and scientific  method they are hardly likely to understand how a scientific  test is carried out

So you are now an expert on cadaver dogs as well as your many other accomplishments then Davel?

[Mr Gray]

So you are now an expert on cadaver dogs as well as your many other accomplishments then Davel?

Cite for me claiming to be an expert on cadaver dogs

[Sunny]

Cite for me claiming to be an expert on cadaver dogs

No need as it was a question.

[Mr Gray]

No need as it was a question.

It's a rather stupid question to ask if it's something I've never claimed