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Offline Sunny

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #480 on: November 28, 2018, 03:55:19 PM »
Dear God.  This is all getting more awful.  I don't understand what any of you are talking about any more.  No one has to come to my house.  In fact, please don't.

This has nothing to do with Madeleine McCann or anyone's thoughts on the subject.

I remain a McCann Supporter by virtue of Logistics.  Prove me wrong on that one, but you can't.

I don't care what sort of people The McCanns are, but I am certain sure that they are better parents than I ever was.  Should that have been necessary, of course.  Which it probably wasn't.

You all get on with it.  You all horrify me.

Don't worry Eleanor. I imagine John will delete all this.   
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #481 on: November 28, 2018, 04:00:50 PM »
Don't worry Eleanor. I imagine John will delete all this.
I hope he doesn't, but if it's considered not relevant to the case then it could be moved to a different forum. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #482 on: November 28, 2018, 04:03:28 PM »
Cite for this... It appears both you and Eleanor are mixed up.... Perhaps you both need a cigarette


I've never seen any poster applaud the McCann's decision to leave the children... You again seem to be making things up

Don't chance your arm with me.  I left my children alone under similar circumstances and have never denied it.  It is documented, and has frequently  been thrown at me.

You are now proving what an intransigent person you are.  Which is really pissing me of.  Especially with a direct accusation against me personally.

None of my thoughts on the subject have ever influenced my Moderating.  But then I have never done a lot of that.

« Last Edit: November 28, 2018, 06:47:17 PM by John »

Offline Sunny

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #483 on: November 28, 2018, 04:12:47 PM »
Don't chance your arm with me.  I left my children alone under similar circumstances and have never denied it.  It is documented, and has frequently  been thrown at me.

You are now proving what an intransigent person you are.  Which is really pissing me of.  Especially with a direct accusation against me personally.

None of my thoughts on the subject have ever influenced my Moderating.  But then I have never done a lot of that.


I couldn't agree more.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2018, 06:47:33 PM by John »
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #484 on: November 28, 2018, 04:15:18 PM »
And all because Kate McCann described the dog alerts as "not an exact science" - shame on the woman for saying something so flagrantly idiotic!!
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #485 on: November 28, 2018, 04:16:27 PM »
I'm referring to scientific method... Which is common to all sciences

Thank you. Ar last something we can discuss. Please define 'scientific method',
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Offline G-Unit

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #486 on: November 28, 2018, 04:21:42 PM »
And all because Kate McCann described the dog alerts as "not an exact science" - shame on the woman for saying something so flagrantly idiotic!!

No. it's all because I wanted those who keep dragging 'science' and 'scientific testing' into their posts to explain what exactly they mean.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #487 on: November 28, 2018, 04:45:01 PM »
Don't chance your arm with me.  I left my children alone under similar circumstances and have never denied it.  It is documented, and has frequently  been thrown at me.

You are now proving what an intransigent person you are.  Which is really pissing me of.  Especially with a direct accusation against me personally.

None of my thoughts on the subject have ever influenced my Moderating.  But then I have never done a lot of that.


I think most parents make mistakes from time to time. In this case I think it was the parents’ attitude to their mistake that causes debate.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2018, 06:47:51 PM by John »
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Brietta

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #488 on: November 28, 2018, 05:20:41 PM »
I think most parents make mistakes from time to time. In this case I think it was the parents’ attitude to their mistake that causes debate.
Snip
We had not seen the McCanns since Thursday, when suddenly they appeared by the pool. The surreal limbo of the past two days suddenly snapped back into painful, awful realtime.

It was a shock: the physical transformation of these two human beings was sickening - I felt it as a physical blow.

Kate's back and shoulders, her hands, her mouth had reshaped themselves in to the angular manifestation of a silent scream.

I thought I might cry and turned so that she wouldn't see.

Gerry was upright, his lips now drawn into a thin, impenetrable line. Some people, including Jes, tried to offer comfort. Some gave them hugs. Some stared at their feet, words eluding them. We all wondered what to do. That was the last time we saw Gerry and Kate.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/dec/14/ukcrime.madeleinemccann
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #489 on: November 28, 2018, 05:31:34 PM »
No. it's all because I wanted those who keep dragging 'science' and 'scientific testing' into their posts to explain what exactly they mean.
And yet in your opening post you seemed rather puzzled by her comment:


“I wonder what she meant? Assuming she understood the different kinds of science, would she know what an exact science is? “

"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #490 on: November 28, 2018, 05:33:33 PM »
I think most parents make mistakes from time to time. In this case I think it was the parents’ attitude to their mistake that causes debate.
I don’t think so.  I think their “attitude” was caused by the hostile reaction to their mistake from members of the public and the media.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #491 on: November 28, 2018, 05:33:47 PM »
I think most parents make mistakes from time to time. In this case I think it was the parents’ attitude to their mistake that causes debate.

You have no idea whatsoever how the McCann's feel about their mistake

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #492 on: November 28, 2018, 05:42:54 PM »
Don't chance your arm with me.  I left my children alone under similar circumstances and have never denied it.  It is documented, and has frequently  been thrown at me.

You are now proving what an intransigent person you are.  Which is really pissing me of.  Especially with a direct accusation against me personally.

None of my thoughts on the subject have ever influenced my Moderating.  But then I have never done a lot of that.


Water of a ducks back... I too left my children alone.... And it was the wrong thing to do..
I don't know how and why you work out I'm intransigent... Perhaps you could have the decency to explain..

« Last Edit: November 28, 2018, 06:48:37 PM by John »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #493 on: November 28, 2018, 05:45:04 PM »
Thank you. Ar last something we can discuss. Please define 'scientific method',

I don't need to... Google it

scientific method
noun
a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.
"criticism is the backbone of the scientific method"


That's it... It's not what I understand  by scientific method... It's what scientists understand ss scientific  method
« Last Edit: November 28, 2018, 06:04:00 PM by Davel »

Offline Eleanor

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #494 on: November 28, 2018, 05:59:05 PM »
I couldn't agree more.

Don't ever make assumptions.  You are stupid if you do.