What is 'science'

[Mr Gray]

IMO, smoking like many other potentially harmful habits affects those with a predisposition to be affected. Hence Keith Richards.

Again you wish to dismiss the overwhelming evidence... I've said a lot on this forum Re the importance of understanding evidence.... The fact that someones uncle smoked 200 a day and lived till 110 does nothing to counter the work of Doll..

Doll's evidence is there for all to see...

[Mr Gray]

IMO, smoking like many other potentially harmful habits affects those with a predisposition to be affected. Hence Keith Richards.

so in this case you are happy to disbelieve the experts who have presented the evidence for everyone to examine and criticise....but when it comes to grime...we are not allowed to question an expert

[slartibartfast]

so in this case you are happy to disbelieve the experts who have presented the evidence for everyone to examine and criticise....but when it comes to grime...we are not allowed to question an expert

Why do you make assumptions on my opinion of the number of people who are predisposed?

[Mr Gray]

Why do you make assumptions on my opinion of the number of people who are predisposed?

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to be clear...do you accept smoking is a major cause of Lung cancer

[Sunny]

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to be clear...do you accept smoking is a major cause of Lung cancer

Personally I can't see what smoking and lung cancer have to do with the dog alerts and YES I have been reading the thread.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Humans fiddle with their own CV's, dogs don't. UK handlers and dogs are independently tested and licensed annually. Why would those testing them pass and license teams which don't meet the required standard?

Do dogs write their own CVs then!  How astonishing.  As for your other point, well quite, but you said that cadaver dogs, like humans were all different.  My point was that they should all be the same, you seemed to disagree.

[Mr Gray]

Personally I can't see what smoking and lung cancer have to do with the dog alerts and YES I have been reading the thread.

For me the relevance is the ability to assess and understand what is and isnt  evidence

[Vertigo Swirl]

The scientific community can only warn people. It's the policy and law makers who have to act. People like Trump who see global warming as fake news. Scientists can warn and advise, they can't act.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/health-science/us-scientists-have-challenged-donald-trump-on-climate-change/news-story/18d31e1a4c4448490e3215365f54f1e8

is global warming an exact science?

[Vertigo Swirl]

I assessed the risk to myself and decided it wasn't high. So far, after smoking for 60 years I have no health issues whatsoever. The evidence underpinning global warming is, in my opinion, much more reliable,

how did you decide all those years ago when you started smoking that the risk to you (or to those around you breathing in such arevolting cocktail of chemicals) of developing cancer from it wasn’t high?  Smoking does of course effect the heart as well, but I guess you don’t believe that either! 

[Vertigo Swirl]

Personally I can't see what smoking and lung cancer have to do with the dog alerts and YES I have been reading the thread.

what is science?  That’s the topic of this thread.

[Mr Gray]

how did you decide all those years ago when you started smoking that the risk to you (or to those around you breathing in such arevolting cocktail of chemicals) of developing cancer from it wasn’t high?  Smoking does of course effect the heart as well, but I guess you don’t believe that either!

and of course lung function.......emphysema and COPD....and of course mouth cancer...........gum disease...foul breath....I really dont see it has a lot going for it

[Vertigo Swirl]

and of course lung function.......emphysema and COPD....and of course mouth cancer...........gum disease...foul breath....I really dont see it has a lot going for it

plus it makes your face look like a tortoise scrotum, see the previously mentioned Keith Richards.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I assessed the risk to myself and decided it wasn't high. So far, after smoking for 60 years I have no health issues whatsoever. The evidence underpinning global warming is, in my opinion, much more reliable,

Have you ever given any thought to the impact your smoking has had on the environment and health of the planet?
https://www.conserve-energy-future.com/serious-effects-cigarette-smoking-environment-and-human-health.php

[G-Unit]

how did you decide all those years ago when you started smoking that the risk to you (or to those around you breathing in such arevolting cocktail of chemicals) of developing cancer from it wasn’t high?  Smoking does of course effect the heart as well, but I guess you don’t believe that either!

When I started smoking the risk hadn't been invented.

[G-Unit]

plus it makes your face look like a tortoise scrotum, see the previously mentioned Keith Richards.

I have noticed that heavy drinking has that effect. I don't have any illnesses and I am not wrinkly.