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Offline Erngath

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2018, 01:33:05 PM »
My own research but Amaral is right. No evidence of Abduction so it is a lie!

Are you allowed to post that?? *%87
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2018, 01:34:44 PM »
Yes no stranger prints found on the open window -  not  even a glove mark! There was evidence on that window. Give me any evidence of a stranger in that apartment Erngath? You have none!
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Erngath

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2018, 01:34:57 PM »
He should've called it - The window to the truth or The Key or not to key  @)(++(*

Being a convicted perjurer himself, there is more than a touch of hypocrisy in the title.
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Offline Snowgirl

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2018, 01:36:20 PM »
So The Title is wrong then.  I have read that.
I have to wonder what guests make of some of the replies in here

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Ive read enough snippets to realise its rubbish
#MeToo.
Snippet readers . Says it all really on how to form an opinion .  (&^&

Offline Erngath

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2018, 01:37:16 PM »
Yes no stranger prints found on the open window -  not  even a glove mark! There was evidence on that window. Give me any evidence of a stranger in that apartment? You have none!

Not personally.
I have no evidence at all.
Do you have?
Perhaps the present investigation have some.
Do you know if they have?

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Offline pathfinder73

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2018, 01:39:22 PM »
Don't know but they have mine. 22:03
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Faithlilly

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2018, 01:41:03 PM »
It obviously makes you wonder!
Have your wonderings t brought you any answer to this question?

Iím sure answers will come in the fullness of time.
Moral Guilt
Detractors of the work of our British Police in bringing criminals to justice generally ignore the important distinction between moral proof and legal evidence of guilt. In not a few cases that are popularly classed with 'unsolved mysteries of crime,' the offender is known, but evidence is wanting. If, for example, in- a recent murder case of special notoriety and interest,* certain human remains had not been found in a cellar, a great crime would have been catalogued among `Police failures'; and yet, even without the evidence which sent the murderer to the gallows, the moral proof of his guilt would have been full and clear.
Robert Anderson

Offline Erngath

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2018, 01:43:55 PM »
I have to wonder what guests make of some of the replies in here

. Snippet readers . Says it all really on how to form an opinion .  (&^&

Many here have formed opinions of the ongoing investigation, without reading the facts/evidence gathered by the investigation.

Reading a few chapters of the book I was not impressed with his evidence.
Now you have read all of the book.
Did it convince you that there was a lie and he presented the truth?

Don't concern yourself with the guests readng this thread.
I'm sure they find the whole forum enthralling.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Erngath

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2018, 01:46:54 PM »
Iím sure answers will come in the fullness of time.

So you don't know why this particular meeting was newsworthy?
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Offline Faithlilly

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #39 on: November 21, 2018, 02:05:51 PM »
So you don't know why this particular meeting was newsworthy?


All that I know is that amongst all the meetings the parents have allegedly had with SY this one has made the front pages. Isnít that odd to you ?
Moral Guilt
Detractors of the work of our British Police in bringing criminals to justice generally ignore the important distinction between moral proof and legal evidence of guilt. In not a few cases that are popularly classed with 'unsolved mysteries of crime,' the offender is known, but evidence is wanting. If, for example, in- a recent murder case of special notoriety and interest,* certain human remains had not been found in a cellar, a great crime would have been catalogued among `Police failures'; and yet, even without the evidence which sent the murderer to the gallows, the moral proof of his guilt would have been full and clear.
Robert Anderson

Offline Erngath

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #40 on: November 21, 2018, 02:14:46 PM »


All that I know is that amongst all the meetings the parents have allegedly had with SY this one has made the front pages. Isnít that odd to you ?

I'll think about it and try to think why it might be odd.
I was rather hoping you knew.
Sometimes you give the impression, at least to me,  of having inside information.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Erngath

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #41 on: November 21, 2018, 02:15:44 PM »
Don't know but they have mine. 22:03

The SY investigation have your information??
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Offline Snowgirl

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #42 on: November 21, 2018, 02:26:51 PM »
Many here have formed opinions of the ongoing investigation, without reading the facts/evidence gathered by the investigation.

Reading a few chapters of the book I was not impressed with his evidence.
Now you have read all of the book.
Did it convince you that there was a lie and he presented the truth?

Don't concern yourself with the guests readng this thread.
I'm sure they find the whole forum enthralling.
I was always taught that you cannot form an opinion on anything unless you know what youíre talking about .
 Unless you have read the PJ files and/ or  the book based the files you cannot  imo have anything else to base your opinion on .
Yes of course I have read the book andof course there was a lie and yes he showed what the truth of the lie was . All imo .

Offline Faithlilly

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #43 on: November 21, 2018, 02:35:25 PM »
I'll think about it and try to think why it might be odd.
I was rather hoping you knew.
Sometimes you give the impression, at least to me,  of having inside information.

Do I ?
Moral Guilt
Detractors of the work of our British Police in bringing criminals to justice generally ignore the important distinction between moral proof and legal evidence of guilt. In not a few cases that are popularly classed with 'unsolved mysteries of crime,' the offender is known, but evidence is wanting. If, for example, in- a recent murder case of special notoriety and interest,* certain human remains had not been found in a cellar, a great crime would have been catalogued among `Police failures'; and yet, even without the evidence which sent the murderer to the gallows, the moral proof of his guilt would have been full and clear.
Robert Anderson

Offline Erngath

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #44 on: November 21, 2018, 02:47:25 PM »
I was always taught that you cannot form an opinion on anything unless you know what youíre talking about .
 Unless you have read the PJ files and/ or  the book based the files you cannot  imo have anything else to base your opinion on .
Yes of course I have read the book andof course there was a lie and yes he showed what the truth of the lie was . All imo .

What was the lie?
And what was the truth?

Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.