Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Not true. Wilkins could only narrow it down to between 8.45 and 9.15pm. He could be no more accurate than that.

As the McCanns only arrived at the table at 8.30pm what would Gerry be doing coming out of the apartment at 8.45 pm?

[Sunny]

As the McCanns only arrived at the table at 8.30pm what would Gerry be doing coming out of the apartment at 8.45 pm?

Where does Jeremy Wilkins say he was certain that Gerry McCann was LEAVING 5a.  I thought he couldn't be sure.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Where does Jeremy Wilkins say he was certain that Gerry McCann was LEAVING 5a.  I thought he couldn't be sure.

He was in close proximity to his apartment where his children were sleeping, the ones he said he was checking on every 30 minutes.  If he wasn't there to check on them, what else do you think he was doing in that close proximity? Picking flowers?

[Sunny]

He was in close proximity to his apartment where his children were sleeping, the ones he said he was checking on every 30 minutes.  If he wasn't there to check on them, what else do you think he was doing in that close proximity? Picking flowers?

That is immaterial to my question. Was he on the way in or out of 5a. Jeremy wasn't certain.  No need to be  facetious.

[John]

Can they be knocked down without any subsequent sharp application of brakes which would have been necessary for the motorist to get out and pick up the body, and which often leaves marks on the road?  This spot where the dogs lost Madeleine’s scent, are there no apartments nearby with occupants inside who may have heard a screech of brakes, a scream, a loud thud, a door slam, etc etc?

Low speed impacts can be fatal yet are silent is respect of noise or skid marks.

[John]

As the McCanns only arrived at the table at 8.30pm what would Gerry be doing coming out of the apartment at 8.45 pm?

A good point VS but wasn't it reported that Gerry was away for quite a while, someone mentioned 30 minutes?

[John]

That is immaterial to my question. Was he on the way in or out of 5a. Jeremy wasn't certain.  No need to be  facetious.

Surely if Gerry was walking towards him (albeit on the other side of the road) and away from the property gate he could only but infer that he was returning from the apartment.

[jassi]

A good point VS but wasn't it reported that Gerry was away for quite a while, someone mentioned 30 minutes?

Well we don't know for sure what Gerry did AFTER jez left him

[Robittybob1]

Well we don't know for sure what Gerry did AFTER jez left him

Nor what Jez did after leaving Gerry.

[Vertigo Swirl]

That is immaterial to my question. Was he on the way in or out of 5a. Jeremy wasn't certain.  No need to be  facetious.

What makes you think it’s possible he was on his way to the apartment when he bumped into Jez?

[Sunny]

What makes you think it’s possible he was on his way to the apartment when he bumped into Jez?

Simply?  Because Jeremy Wilkins wasn't certain that Gerry McCann was coming out.   Unless you can find a quote where he says he is certain that Gerry McCann was leaving 5a there will be a doubt.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Simply?  Because Jeremy Wilkins wasn't certain that Gerry McCann was coming out.   Unless you can find a quote where he says he is certain that Gerry McCann was leaving 5a there will be a doubt.

“I met him near the stairs of a ground floor. There was a gate leading up to some stairs. I was pretty certain that he had left the apartment. We spoke for a few minutes. He said you’re on walking duty. I said I was staying in and pros and cons and what to do with the children”.

[kizzy]

He was in close proximity to his apartment where his children were sleeping, the ones he said he was checking on every 30 minutes.  If he wasn't there to check on them, what else do you think he was doing in that close proximity? Picking flowers?

No one knows what he was doing when Jez left - wasn't a quick check either.

He may have been in the garden part - but like you say not to pick flowers.

[Sunny]

“I met him near the stairs of a ground floor. There was a gate leading up to some stairs. I was pretty certain that he had left the apartment. We spoke for a few minutes. He said you’re on walking duty. I said I was staying in and [ censored word ] and cons and what to do with the children”.

And later he wasn't so sure

Q. From which direction Gerry travelling when you met'
From previous conversations had with Gerry, I am of the notion of the usual routine of the group in relation to checking on their children when they were in the Tapas Bar. I also was aware of the location of the McCann apartment. Naturally when I met him that night, I assumed that he had gone to check on the children. I cannot affirm if I saw him exactly leaving the apartment through the passageway, and if he was heading towards the tapas Bar.

[Vertigo Swirl]

No one knows what he was doing when Jez left - wasn't a quick check either.

He may have been in the garden part - but like you say not to pick flowers.

LOL.