Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.

[faithlilly]

The forensics suggest Kate opened them and the only innocent reason for that would be to look outside for the missing child.

So she ‘misremembered’ that she had opened it when she told her husband it was open minutes later ? That she also ‘misremembered’ the whooping of the curtains and slamming of the door ? Really ?

[Angelo222]

So she ‘misremembered’ that she had opened it when she told her husband it was open minutes later ? That she also ‘misremembered’ the whooping of the curtains and slamming of the door ? Really ?

Trauma can create many illusions.

[pathfinder73]

It is starting to get closer to the true events but Smithman did not hit her with his car and carry her away. Why carry on foot if he had a car? Doesn't add up.

[faithlilly]

Trauma can create many illusions.

Nope, not of that magnitude.

[Angelo222]

It is starting to get closer to the true events but Smithman did not hit her with his car and carry her away. Why carry on foot if he had a car? Doesn't add up.

Remember that Smithman went right past the medical centre.

[Angelo222]

Nope, not of that magnitude.

It can cause much confusion and especially so if drink is involved.  One only has to look at the praying Arabs scene to find something very peculiar, even the two cops were gobsmacked.  Gerry couldn't even remember which door he used or where he met Jez. To this day he still believes that he crossed the road to intercept Jez.

[faithlilly]

It can cause much confusion and especially so if drink is involved.  One only has to look at the praying Arabs scene to find something very peculiar, even the two cops were gobsmacked.  Gerry couldn't even remember which door he used.

Confusion maybe, delusions no.

As to the door, Gerry remembered perfectly.

[Robittybob1]

The forensics suggest Kate opened them and the only innocent reason for that would be to look outside for the missing child.

Finger prints tell that someone touched the window.  I think Kate admits to touching the window when checking it was closed.
Do they tell someone that Kate opened the window?

[Vertigo Swirl]

It's not rocket science, the police believe Kate opened the window.

If Kate’s prints were found on the window what does that prove?  Nothing and certainly not woke and wandered, imo.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It can cause much confusion and especially so if drink is involved.  One only has to look at the praying Arabs scene to find something very peculiar, even the two cops were gobsmacked.  Gerry couldn't even remember which door he used or where he met Jez. To this day he still believes that he crossed the road to intercept Jez.

Why did you write this less than two hours ago?

 “The forensics lifted from the window and shutter were extremely informative and point to a staged abduction imo.”

[pathfinder73]

It can cause much confusion and especially so if drink is involved.  One only has to look at the praying Arabs scene to find something very peculiar, even the two cops were gobsmacked.  Gerry couldn't even remember which door he used or where he met Jez. To this day he still believes that he crossed the road to intercept Jez.

 

Or he crossed the road to explain how he had his back to Jane and therefore did not see her. Jez was adamant that he did not see anyone else at that time or maybe they did not want to admit to seeing the mysterious woman in purple 

Good point on the medical centre but this was at 10pm.

[Montclair]

In this interview with Sandra Felgueiras, the McCanns state that Madeleine would not have been able to leave the apartment on her own and Kate says that the window and shutter were open.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_KdIKe_Zds

[faithlilly]

In this interview with Sandra Felgueiras, the McCanns state that Madeleine would not have been able to leave the apartment on her own and Kate says that the window and shutter were open.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_KdIKe_Zds

If the article about the woke and wandered theory is true it does put the parents in a bit of a pickle.

If not it does signify that the print media is no longer scared, no matter how tentatively, to say that there may not have been an abduction.

[John]

In this interview with Sandra Felgueiras, the McCanns state that Madeleine would not have been able to leave the apartment on her own and Kate says that the window and shutter were open.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_KdIKe_Zds

Why did they leave the patio door unlocked then?

[Brietta]

It's not rocket science, the police believe Kate opened the window.

The forum has looked extensively both at smudges on the shutters and at the positioning of Kate's fingerprints on the window which are commensurate not of her opening the window but of leaning against it for support as she leaned out.

The three quotes below are from a member who believed the 'woke and wandered' theory and who made an excellent case for it ... whether one agrees with it or not.



When the window is at maximum (50%) open position, looking from inside, the right pane is slid left so it covers the left pane. Have you not watched the video demonstration in Amaral's film?
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1868.msg258650#msg258650
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The 5 KM prints were all located on the
"Lado interior do vidro da janela"
"Interior surface of the glass of the window"
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P4/04_VOLUME_IVa_Page_884a.jpg
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1868.msg259170#msg259170
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Prints were due to placing left hand for support while leaning to look out the already open window.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1868.msg271937#msg271937