Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.

[Robittybob1]

There has been no confirmation from either PJ or OG that they are looking into the walk and wandered theory. Why do some people here take it as the gospel truth? We have already had the paedophile ring, the botched burglary, the woman in purple, and I don't know how many other theories. The only reason that this has been brought out in the press is that it debunks the abduction story and everything the parents said about what happened that night.

It seems that the police warned the parents not to tell anything to the press, so as to not prejudice the investigation. Now we have the walk and wandered theory in the papers after the police visit in Rothley, which in my mind would harm any possibility of finding the culprit, who has now been forewarned. Any parent who wants their child to be found would not endanger them in this way. So this makes me believe that this theory is not on the table.

Since Kate found the window open and not the front door open she can only think that Madeleine was abducted via the window.  Who would think that someone would raise the shutters for no reason?    Once the PJ realise someone closed the door (after Madeleine left), it will put new pressure on someone to confess to closing the front door.   Well that is my theory anyway.

[Gertrude]

That new theory puts a nail in Goncalo Amaral's theory.  She can't have died in the apartment and walked out.

How is this at all a new theory? It's just a rehashed old theory, popping up in the papers through an anonymous source.

How can the UK media get away with lies like this? Just an anonymous rumour but stating it as fact?

From The Sun ...."BRIT cops are re-examining a theory that Madeleine McCann left her family’s holiday apartment to look for her parents.


“ A source in Portugal said: One of the lines of investigation that continues to be pursued is that Maddie could have walked out of the holiday flat herself.”

The Met Police refused to comment.

[Brietta]

But she could have walked out and died which puts the spotlight right back on the parents imo and that is why this theory has been avoided so much by supporters.

I think that can only work on the assumption that the only folk out and about in Luz at the time were those mentioned in the case files ... and that is patently absurd.

In my opinion there was a lot more going on than that. 

For example, but for Neil Berry's replies in his rogatory statement we would never have known that he had been in the apartment five stairwell on 3rd May  http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/NEIL_BERRY.htm in which he refers to previous statements one of which was 7th May.

The laundry man didn't mention the encounter in his statement at the time
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARIO_MARREIROS.htm

Nor would we have known that Stephen Carpenter too had made previous statements had it not been for his rogatory interview.
Snip
DCF: And I know that before we begin the questioning, that you showed some concern about the truthful recording of the facts and that they could have had some distortions by what you have read about the event.

SC: Yes.

DCF: Therefore what we have agreed to do is to read your statement and put the facts together.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN-CARPENTER.htm


The files we have seen are not even a snapshot of events on May 3 2007 because there is too much missing from them and some missing statements could very well change perceptions of events had they been followed through at the time.

[barrier]

How is this at all a new theory? It's just a rehashed old theory, popping up in the papers through an anonymous source.

How can the UK media get away with lies like this? Just an anonymous rumour but stating it as fact?

From The Sun ...."BRIT cops are re-examining a theory that Madeleine McCann left her family’s holiday apartment to look for her parents.


“ A source in Portugal said: One of the lines of investigation that continues to be pursued is that Maddie could have walked out of the holiday flat herself.”

The Met Police refused to comment.

The last sentence being the salient part.
But there again its not their investigation.

[jassi]

Had Madeleine met with an accidental death either in or close to the apartment it would have been usual for a body to be somewhere close to the scene.

But whatever else the woke and wandered theory does ... it destroys Amaral's premise of Madeleine falling off the couch and or falling over the balcony into the flower bed and or falling down the stairs.

It would if woke & wandered turns out to be true.
Until then Amaral's theory has not been destroyed.

[Robittybob1]

Depends on what happened.
She could have been carried back into 5a , either dead. or where she  subsequently died.

Who by?  I think it an option that needs to be explored.

[Robittybob1]

How is this at all a new theory? It's just a rehashed old theory, popping up in the papers through an anonymous source.

How can the UK media get away with lies like this? Just an anonymous rumour but stating it as fact?

From The Sun ...."BRIT cops are re-examining a theory that Madeleine McCann left her family’s holiday apartment to look for her parents.


“ A source in Portugal said: One of the lines of investigation that continues to be pursued is that Maddie could have walked out of the holiday flat herself.”

The Met Police refused to comment.

Didn't the archiving report dismiss the idea of Madeleine wandering?  They didn't give their reasoning, but I'm sure it has to do with doors or gates being left open if wandering had occurred.

So in some ways it is new from the PJ's POV.

[G-Unit]

How is this at all a new theory? It's just a rehashed old theory, popping up in the papers through an anonymous source.

How can the UK media get away with lies like this? Just an anonymous rumour but stating it as fact?

From The Sun ...."BRIT cops are re-examining a theory that Madeleine McCann left her family’s holiday apartment to look for her parents.


“ A source in Portugal said: One of the lines of investigation that continues to be pursued is that Maddie could have walked out of the holiday flat herself.”

The Met Police refused to comment.

Writing these articles is a nice little earner for a freelance journalist imo.

[barrier]

Who by?  I think it an option that needs to be explored.

With out wishing to cast aspersions there is a witness statement of a car being driven past the McCann apartment at circa 21:00.

[Robittybob1]

It would if woke & wandered turns out to be true.
Until then Amaral's theory has not been destroyed.

I can hear Gerry asking when did she have the accident?

[Gertrude]

Didn't the archiving report dismiss the idea of Madeleine wandering?  They didn't give their reasoning, but I'm sure it has to do with doors or gates being left open if wandering had occurred.

So in some ways it is new from the PJ's POV.

But the article (which is quite possibly loads of rubbish) from the Sun says it's 'Brit cops' who are looking at this theory.

[G-Unit]

With out wishing to cast aspersions there is a witness statement of a car being driven past the McCann apartment at circa 21:00.

There was the couple who had been called to a repair. They passed at 21.00
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HAYLEY-CRAWFORD.htm

There was the chef who drove from near the Millenium to the Tapas at 21.10
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ARLINDO-PELEGA.htm

Neither of them reports seeing Matthew, Gerry, Jane or Jeremy.

[Robittybob1]

But the article (which is quite possibly loads of rubbish) from the Sun says it's 'Brit cops' who are looking at this theory.

From the OP "Portuguese police are investigating the theory that Madeleine McCann disappeared after waking up and walking out of her parents' Algarve holiday apartment." 

I have a feeling the UK cops were well aware of this already.

[Gertrude]

 

From the OP "Portuguese police are investigating the theory that Madeleine McCann disappeared after waking up and walking out of her parents' Algarve holiday apartment." 

I have a feeling the UK cops were well aware of this already.

OK but it's an anonymous source Rob, it has no confirmation. Our gutter press routinely run stories fed to them by P.R. people, it has no validity apart from The Sun/ Mail claim it happened.

[Brietta]

There was the couple who had been called to a repair. They passed at 21.00
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HAYLEY-CRAWFORD.htm

There was the chef who drove from near the Millenium to the Tapas at 21.10
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ARLINDO-PELEGA.htm

Neither of them reports seeing Matthew, Gerry, Jane or Jeremy.

Interesting statement detailing the use of two vehicles by the couple on that evening ...

Snip
When questioned, the witness states that when she travelled along the roads in question, which make up the resort, and principally those which she later learnt were adjacent to the apartment where Madeleine was staying and disappeared from, close to the Tapas restaurant, which she did at about 21H00, (03 May, 2007) the witness states that she saw no vehicle, person or other situation that she considered suspicious that could be directly or indirectly related to the facts being investigated.

When asked, the witness states that after her boyfriend had collected a service vehicle, from the Ocean Club reception, which took place at about 21H00, they both went to her home, but in separate vehicles, arriving at about 21H15.

The witness states that she was off work on last Wednesday and Thursday, as was her boyfriend.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HAYLEY-CRAWFORD.htm

Snip
- Questioned, he states that, last Thursday, he was off duty but was called by the reception and went to the resort around 020H30 to open a door that had problems. After completing the work for which he was called, which took him about 15 minutes, he left for his residence

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/NLNO-CONCEIGAO.htm