Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.

[Brietta]

Scottish toddler found wandering alone on Tunisian beach after holiday club escape   28 NOV 2018

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The couple were on a Thomas Cook holiday with Ella and their other kids, Ruby, nine, and Billie, four. They dropped Ella off at a club run by the Sahara Beach AquaPark Resort, near the city of Monastir.

About 20 minutes later, a holidaymaker brought Ella back to Billy – having found her alone on a nearby beach.

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The family have complained to Thomas Cook.
In a post on social media, Claire slammed the company and threatened to take legal action.

A spokeswoman for the operators said: “Customer safety is our first priority, so we were very concerned to hear of this incident and we understand how distressing it must have been.

“We are urgently investigating with the hotel to get to the bottom of what happened and make any changes needed.”

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/parents-fury-after-scots-toddler-13653276



It is possible for a child to wander even in broad daylight even when participating in supervised activities with parents close at hand.

Luck was on the child's side on this occasion but as her father says she could have vanished never to be seen again.

[G-Unit]

Why are you so bothered what I believe ?

It seems to me that some people think they know the truth. They refuse to acknowledge, however, how nuch belief is involved.

The ;evidence' offered for a stranger abduction has mostly been provided by the McCanns. Accepting that evidence requires a belief that they have told the truth.

The 'evidence' that the police are not investigating the McCanns requires a belief that the police are telling the truth.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Why are you so bothered what I believe ?

Bothered?  Moi??  Just making conversation.  And I ‘m curious to know if there’s anything at all that the police could say or do to convince you the parents are not their main suspects.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It seems to me that some people think they know the truth. They refuse to acknowledge, however, how nuch belief is involved.

The ;evidence' offered for a stranger abduction has mostly been provided by the McCanns. Accepting that evidence requires a belief that they have told the truth.

The 'evidence' that the police are not investigating the McCanns requires a belief that the police are telling the truth.

Picking and choosing what to believe allows some people to maintain the belief that the McCanns are the main suspects in this case and the only suspects now under investigation, do you not agree?

[faithlilly]

Scottish toddler found wandering alone on Tunisian beach after holiday club escape   28 NOV 2018

Snip

The couple were on a Thomas Cook holiday with Ella and their other kids, Ruby, nine, and Billie, four. They dropped Ella off at a club run by the Sahara Beach AquaPark Resort, near the city of Monastir.

About 20 minutes later, a holidaymaker brought Ella back to Billy – having found her alone on a nearby beach.

____________________________________________________________________________

The family have complained to Thomas Cook.
In a post on social media, Claire slammed the company and threatened to take legal action.

A spokeswoman for the operators said: “Customer safety is our first priority, so we were very concerned to hear of this incident and we understand how distressing it must have been.

“We are urgently investigating with the hotel to get to the bottom of what happened and make any changes needed.”

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/parents-fury-after-scots-toddler-13653276



It is possible for a child to wander even in broad daylight even when participating in supervised activities with parents close at hand.

Luck was on the child's side on this occasion but as her father says she could have vanished never to be seen again.

This case wouldn’t have happened if there hadn’t been negligence on the part of the company, even the parents accept this.

[G-Unit]

Scottish toddler found wandering alone on Tunisian beach after holiday club escape   28 NOV 2018

Snip

The couple were on a Thomas Cook holiday with Ella and their other kids, Ruby, nine, and Billie, four. They dropped Ella off at a club run by the Sahara Beach AquaPark Resort, near the city of Monastir.

About 20 minutes later, a holidaymaker brought Ella back to Billy – having found her alone on a nearby beach.

____________________________________________________________________________

The family have complained to Thomas Cook.
In a post on social media, Claire slammed the company and threatened to take legal action.

A spokeswoman for the operators said: “Customer safety is our first priority, so we were very concerned to hear of this incident and we understand how distressing it must have been.

“We are urgently investigating with the hotel to get to the bottom of what happened and make any changes needed.”

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/parents-fury-after-scots-toddler-13653276



It is possible for a child to wander even in broad daylight even when participating in supervised activities with parents close at hand.

Luck was on the child's side on this occasion but as her father says she could have vanished never to be seen again.

A failure by child club staff, who were in charge of this child.It doesn't say whether those staff were Thomas Cook employees or employees of the resort. Either way, parents should be aware that the standards in other countries will not necessarily be the standards which UK childcare facilities are required to meet.

[Vertigo Swirl]

This case wouldn’t have happened if there hadn’t been negligence on the part of the company, even the parents accept this.

Surely ultimately the fault lies with the parents for leaving their kids in the care of strangers doesn't it? 

[G-Unit]

Picking and choosing what to believe allows some people to maintain the belief that the McCanns are the main suspects in this case and the only suspects now under investigation, do you not agree?

I can't answer for others, but I don't pick and choose. I don't categorically believe anyone or anything.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I can't answer for others, but I don't pick and choose. I don't categorically believe anyone or anything.

What, never? 

[Eleanor]

I sometimes wonder how any of my children actually survived.  Good heavens, three of them up to all sorts that I didn't even know about.

Rivers, Woods, Rope Swings and all sorts of apparently dangerous things.  Come home at tea time and don't tell me that you are bored.  Which they never did.

Where does this end?  May they never learn?  We cannot protect these little horrors for ever.

My sons have become very much more protective of their children than I ever was, probably because they know what they got up to.  So where is the sense in that?

Thanks, Mummy for a good time, but not for mine.

[faithlilly]

Surely ultimately the fault lies with the parents for leaving their kids in the care of strangers doesn't it?

Of course not. The children, as far as the parents were aware, were being cared for. If the McCanns had left their children in the night crèche or had hired a babysitter and Madeleine had gone missing no blame could have been attached to them. But they didn’t. They left their most precious possessions on their own, in an insecure apartment on a main raid. That’s the difference.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Of course not. The children, as far as the parents were aware, were being cared for. If the McCanns had left their children in the night crèche or had hired a babysitter and Madeleine had gone missing no blame could have been attached to them. But they didn’t. They left their most precious possessions on their own, in an insecure apartment on a main raid. That’s the difference.

It's a matter of opinion isn't it?  Leaving your kids with strangers who may or may not be up to the job, and who have numerous other children to worry about, or leaving them alone asleep, in more familiar surroundings, checking on them yourself every 30 minutes.

Children are not possessions by the way.  IMO. 

[faithlilly]

It's a matter of opinion isn't it?  Leaving your kids with strangers who may or may not be up to the job, and who have numerous other children to worry about, or leaving them alone asleep, in more familiar surroundings, checking on them yourself every 30 minutes.

Children are not possessions by the way.  IMO.

No it’s not a matter of opinion, it’s good parenting.

If the staff weren’t up to the job why did the McCanns leave their children with the self same staff every second they could ? Why would they get less capable at night and there would quite likely be less children to care for at night and most of them , I would assume, would be sleeping.

As to familiar surroundings, the McCann children spent almost equal time in the crèche and in their apartment. Both would be equally familiar/unfamiliar surroundings.

As to checking every 30 minutes, not even the Portuguese AG believed that.

[Vertigo Swirl]

No it’s not a matter of opinion, it’s good parenting.

If the staff weren’t up to the job why did the McCanns leave their children with the self same staff every second they could ? Why would they get less capable at night and there would quite likely be less children to care for at night and most of them , I would assume, would be sleeping.

As to familiar surroundings, the McCann children spent almost equal time in the crèche and in their apartment. Both would be equally familiar/unfamiliar surroundings.

As to checking every 30 minutes, not even the Portuguese AG believed that.

So the waiting staff at the Tapas restaurant imagined all the comings and goings of the parents that night did they?  As for the rest of your post, it IS a matter of opinion, as I'm sure you'd be the first to criticise the McCanns for leaving their kids in the care of strangers "every second" they could as some form of neglect. 

[faithlilly]

So the waiting staff at the Tapas restaurant imagined all the comings and goings of the parents that night did they?  As for the rest of your post, it IS a matter of opinion, as I'm sure you'd be the first to criticise the McCanns for leaving their kids in the care of strangers "every second" they could as some form of neglect.

I believe they checked the children, just not every 30 minutes.

As to the rest of your post you are simply trying to justify the unjustifiable by trying to make me out to be some kind of obsessive worrier. While I would wonder why the McCanns chose to spend so little time with their children, it was their choice and I would certainly not call it neglectful.