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Offline Erngath

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #390 on: November 29, 2018, 08:03:13 PM »
But what isn’t bonkers (according to your theory) is picking up a child’s corpse and despite having blankets and bags at your disposal, carrying it uncovered in your arms through the main part of town.  No, that’s perfectly unbonkers I’m sure!

Indeed.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #391 on: November 29, 2018, 08:22:00 PM »
You insinuated that the Tapas staff agreed with the group's version of events, They didn't. End of discussion.
No I did not insinuate anything.   &^&*%
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #392 on: November 29, 2018, 08:24:53 PM »
But what isn’t bonkers (according to your theory) is picking up a child’s corpse and despite having blankets and bags at your disposal, carrying it uncovered in your arms through the main part of town.  No, that’s perfectly unbonkers I’m sure!
But had they changed her pyjamas by that stage?  Could the person have intended to keep her even before he took her to the medical centre for attention?
If it was Madeleine taken there just for medical help would not her pyjamas perfectly match Madeleine's one's?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #393 on: November 29, 2018, 09:03:31 PM »
But what isn’t bonkers (according to your theory) is picking up a child’s corpse and despite having blankets and bags at your disposal, carrying it uncovered in your arms through the main part of town.  No, that’s perfectly unbonkers I’m sure!

Using a bag that may have forensic evidence on it or blankets that belonged to the OC would certainly be bonkers.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #394 on: November 29, 2018, 09:05:24 PM »
Using a bag that may have forensic evidence on it or blankets that belonged to the OC would certainly be bonkers.
Just bring them back with you, whats bonkers about that? But actually, why would it be bonkers if they were disposed of with the body?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #395 on: November 29, 2018, 09:42:53 PM »
Just bring them back with you, whats bonkers about that? But actually, why would it be bonkers if they were disposed of with the body?

You check in a bag at the airport but it’s no longer with you. Don’t you think the police would check something like that if the spotlight fell on you ? What blankets did they have access to apart from the ones that came with the apartment ? Don’t you think that would be noticed if one went missing ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #396 on: November 29, 2018, 09:55:53 PM »
You check in a bag at the airport but it’s no longer with you. Don’t you think the police would check something like that if the spotlight fell on you ? What blankets did they have access to apart from the ones that came with the apartment ? Don’t you think that would be noticed if one went missing ?
So, what’s to stop the would-be abductor (the one you planned to blame for takng your daughter in the first place) from helping themselves to a blanket or bag from your apartment?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline John

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #397 on: November 30, 2018, 09:38:15 AM »
That type of latch is not common in NZ.
 The photo shows some one pulling the lever back.  I suppose it then had a part that would clip it in the pulled back position.
Why would a person need the key to do this?

If you look closely at this lock you will see three distinct mechanisms.  The snib and two bolts.

A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #398 on: November 30, 2018, 09:49:58 AM »
It is clear that the police in Portugal have a last decided to again pursue the credible possibility that Madeleine followed her father out of the apartment and came to some harm. This theory doesn't sit well with the parents for obvious reasons but the evidence would seem to point in that direction.

https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/27/madeleine-mccanns-parents-reject-theory-that-she-wandered-off-looking-for-them-8184086/
« Last Edit: December 04, 2018, 11:20:29 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #399 on: November 30, 2018, 10:12:41 AM »
If you look closely at this lock you will see three distinct mechanisms.  The snib and two bolts.
That is what I needed to know last year.  Do the snib and the bolt on the lower portion move independently?
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Offline Brietta

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #400 on: November 30, 2018, 10:29:25 AM »
If you look closely at this lock you will see three distinct mechanisms.  The snib and two bolts.

We have seen Amaral with the assistance of a colleague demonstrating that the lock of the McCann apartment cannot be compromised using a credit card because of the impediment of a screw.

The image you have provided taken in conjunction with Amaral's documentary and the following statement, suggests to me that it would have been worthwhile to have had the lock forensically examined at the time to determine just exactly what it was capable of doing or not doing.
In the D'Ambrosio instance it appears one thing it wasn't is safeguarding the privacy of the occupants from intrusion.


WITNESS TESTIMONY OF CARLO FRANCISO D'AMBROSIO

We noticed that the cleaning personnel entered the apartment after one knock and did not give us time to respond. This was a bit bothersome and for this reason we would lock the door, and would leave the key in the inside lock.

After this precaution, the next day, the same thing happened and the cleaning woman entered even though the door was locked with the key in the lock.

We never found out how it was possible for a cleaning woman to enter after we had tried to prevent it.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CARLO-D_AMBROSIO.htm
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Angelo222

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #401 on: November 30, 2018, 10:43:14 AM »
We have seen Amaral with the assistance of a colleague demonstrating that the lock of the McCann apartment cannot be compromised using a credit card because of the impediment of a screw.

The image you have provided taken in conjunction with Amaral's documentary and the following statement, suggests to me that it would have been worthwhile to have had the lock forensically examined at the time to determine just exactly what it was capable of doing or not doing.
In the D'Ambrosio instance it appears one thing it wasn't is safeguarding the privacy of the occupants from intrusion.


WITNESS TESTIMONY OF CARLO FRANCISO D'AMBROSIO

We noticed that the cleaning personnel entered the apartment after one knock and did not give us time to respond. This was a bit bothersome and for this reason we would lock the door, and would leave the key in the inside lock.

After this precaution, the next day, the same thing happened and the cleaning woman entered even though the door was locked with the key in the lock.

We never found out how it was possible for a cleaning woman to enter after we had tried to prevent it.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CARLO-D_AMBROSIO.htm

Anyone with a key can get in regardless.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Angelo222

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #402 on: November 30, 2018, 10:44:29 AM »
That is what I needed to know last year.  Do the snib and the bolt on the lower portion move independently?

I had a lock like that once and yes they move independently.  The thicker bar at the top is an additional security feature which is engaged by turning the key.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Angelo222

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #403 on: November 30, 2018, 10:47:46 AM »
It is clear that the police in Portugal have a last decided to again pursue the credible possibility that Madeleine followed her father out of the apartment and came to some harm. This theory doesn't sit well with the parents for obvious reasons but the evidence would seem to point in that direction.

https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/27/madeleine-mccanns-parents-reject-theory-that-she-wandered-off-looking-for-them-8184086/

If it is eventually established that the child got out then it won't look good for her parents and that is why they are furious at this recent development.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #404 on: November 30, 2018, 11:23:57 AM »
If it is eventually established that the child got out then it won't look good for her parents and that is why they are furious at this recent development.

It won't look good for amaral and his book.... For tha whole of the initial PJ investigation... For grime and his dogs... For all those saying the McCann's have lied but the dogs haven't.... For the SC...