Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I find that strange. 'a ground floor'is actually 'a ground floor flat' in the original statement. I have wondered why Jes didn't say 'his' or 'their' flat.

Obviouly there is a word missing, when it went missing, who knows...

[faithlilly]

I think if they had all been singing from the same song sheet without deviation ... that would have merited suspicion.

What is suspicious is when two witnesses to an event, one whose evidence you rely on elsewhere, recall things differently to you but you relentlessly stick to your recollection.

[Vertigo Swirl]

This issue more than any other drives a horse and cart through the argument that the parents wouldn’t provide untrue information that they must know would be discredited later.

???

[Robittybob1]

???

Depends on who is asking the question.

[Vertigo Swirl]

What is suspicious is when two witnesses to an event, one whose evidence you rely on elsewhere, recall things differently to you but you relentlessly stick to your recollection.

Why is that suspicious?

[faithlilly]

If one says it happened - the other one saying it didn't.

One of them is not telling the truth.

There was three witnesses, two agreed on their position, one didn’t yet the one that didn’t wouldn’t concede he was wrong. That is suspicious.

[kizzy]

There was three witnesses, two agreed on their position, one didn’t yet the one that didn’t wouldn’t concede he was wrong. That is suspicious.

Very very suspicious - especially when they are supposed to be on the same side.

[sadie]

Very very suspicious - especially when they are supposed to be on the same side.

and

There was three witnesses, two agreed on their position, one didn’t yet the one that didn’t wouldn’t concede he was wrong. That is suspicious.

This has all been gone thru before, over and over.

1)  Gerry and Jez first noticed each other when Gerry was near the gate out of 5A and Jez was on the opposite side of the road, but further down by the little car park opposite the Tapas restaurant,  They walked tpwards each other at some stage crossing the road to chat.  They met in the middle of the road.  This is  where Gerry got his impression of looking at the wall of block 6.

It was dangerous chatting there . 
Maybe a car came up the road, or from the tiny car park opposite the Tapas reception?  Anyway one man had to back up and Gerry did. 
There were several cars parked along the kerb on the western side of the road (Stephen Carpenter words/ statement).and they backed into a gap.   Gerry stood astride the western kerb, hence his recollection of a kerb and Jez stood in the roadway between two vehicles with the pram pointing downhill.   

All were safe in that position, which was roughly half way between where they saw each other and as it happens was also at the entrance to the alleyway that runs between the flats and the Tapas area.  Confirmed by Jane, Jez and Goncalo (in his video)


2.  Gerry was in a state of panic and enormous distress and that caused a mixing of images in his mind and memory loss.  He genuinely forgot the stepping back into the gap.



I have experienced similar memory loss and muddled thinking  when I lost my son to cancer.  My memory was blown.


Furthermore, I dont think that there was any benefit to Gerry to have disagreed with two friends; it just gave the opportunity to unthinking others to call him a liar and make out it was suspicious


All the above is in my opinion, but it is thought out and makes sense


I am not supplying any cites per se, because this has all been gone over in detail on forum several times before

[kizzy]

This has all been gone thru before, over and over.

1)  Gerry and Jez first noticed each other when Gerry was near the gate out of 5A and Jez was on the opposite side of the road, but further down by the little car park opposite the Tapas restaurant,  They walked tpwards each other at some stage crossing the road to chat.  They met in the middle of the road.  This is  where Gerry got his impression of looking at the wall of block 6.

It was dangerous chatting there . 
Maybe a car came up the road, or from the tiny car park opposite the Tapas reception?  Anyway one man had to back up and Gerry did. 
There were several cars parked along the kerb on the western side of the road (Stephen Carpenter words/ statement).and they backed into a gap.   Gerry stood astride the western kerb, hence his recollection of a kerb and Jez stood in the roadway between two vehicles with the pram pointing downhill.   

All were safe in that position, which was roughly half way between where they saw each other and as it happens was also at the entrance to the alleyway that runs between the flats and the Tapas area.  Confirmed by Jane, Jez and Goncalo (in his video)


2.  Gerry was in a state of panic and enormous distress and that caused a mixing of images in his mind and memory loss.  He genuinely forgot the stepping back into the gap.



I have experienced similar memory loss and muddled thinking  when I lost my son to cancer.  My memory was blown.


Furthermore, I dont think that there was any benefit to Gerry to have disagreed with two friends; it just gave the opportunity to unthinking others to call him a liar and make out it was suspicious


All the above is in my opinion, but it is thought out and makes sense


I am not supplying any cites per se, because this has all been gone over in detail on forum several times before

I have experienced similar memory loss and muddled thinking  when I lost my son to cancer.  My memory was blown.

The last hours of normality would play in your head -  like a video of what you did/happened.

I mean S lets face it his memory was perfect - when he wrote the timeline under duress.

[G-Unit]

Having examined all three's statements there is only one thing I believe. At some point between 8.45 and 9.15 Gerry and Jes met and chatted for a couple of minutes.

[John]

and

This has all been gone thru before, over and over.

1)  Gerry and Jez first noticed each other when Gerry was near the gate out of 5A and Jez was on the opposite side of the road, but further down by the little car park opposite the Tapas restaurant,  They walked tpwards each other at some stage crossing the road to chat.  They met in the middle of the road.  This is  where Gerry got his impression of looking at the wall of block 6.

It was dangerous chatting there . 
Maybe a car came up the road, or from the tiny car park opposite the Tapas reception?  Anyway one man had to back up and Gerry did. 
There were several cars parked along the kerb on the western side of the road (Stephen Carpenter words/ statement).and they backed into a gap.   Gerry stood astride the western kerb, hence his recollection of a kerb and Jez stood in the roadway between two vehicles with the pram pointing downhill.   

All were safe in that position, which was roughly half way between where they saw each other and as it happens was also at the entrance to the alleyway that runs between the flats and the Tapas area.  Confirmed by Jane, Jez and Goncalo (in his video)


2.  Gerry was in a state of panic and enormous distress and that caused a mixing of images in his mind and memory loss.  He genuinely forgot the stepping back into the gap.



I have experienced similar memory loss and muddled thinking  when I lost my son to cancer.  My memory was blown.


Furthermore, I dont think that there was any benefit to Gerry to have disagreed with two friends; it just gave the opportunity to unthinking others to call him a liar and make out it was suspicious


All the above is in my opinion, but it is thought out and makes sense


I am not supplying any cites per se, because this has all been gone over in detail on forum several times before

The mind does play tricks after extreme trauma so it's not beyond the realm of possibilities that Kate lifted the shutter and slid across the window to look for Madeleine and then forgot she had done so.

[faithlilly]

The mind does play tricks after extreme trauma so it's not beyond the realm of possibilities that Kate lifted the shutter and slid across the window to look for Madeleine and then forgot she had done so.

And the slamming of the door and whooshing of the curtains ? Did she simply imagine that ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

There was three witnesses, two agreed on their position, one didn’t yet the one that didn’t wouldn’t concede he was wrong. That is suspicious.

What’s suspicious about it?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Having examined all three's statements there is only one thing I believe. At some point between 8.45 and 9.15 Gerry and Jes met and chatted for a couple of minutes.

You believe they only chatted for two minutes?  Why?

[jassi]

I don't know how long they spoke for, but they were hardly bosom pals - barely knew one another, so unlikely to have conducted a deep and meaningful conversation for very long.
IMO