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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #870 on: December 20, 2018, 05:26:21 PM »
With one static window it could have been deemed fully open or half open.  Why are we arguing this point?  Those blimmin Semantics again.
Because GA used it (fully open or half open) in his theory to show Kate staged the crime scene and that the scene had been changed before Amy Tierney got there.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #871 on: December 20, 2018, 05:44:52 PM »
Because GA used it (fully open or half open) in his theory to show Kate staged the crime scene and that the scene had been changed before Amy Tierney got there.

Of course it had been changed.  Gerry closed the shutter ... then was appalled to discover that it could be easily raised from the outside although his technique for doing so left it askew as witnessed by I think, one of the GNR.

Why would anyone "stage" a scenario ... then as their very first action dive in feet first and destroy the set-up before anyone could see it?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #872 on: December 20, 2018, 06:09:23 PM »
Of course it had been changed.  Gerry closed the shutter ... then was appalled to discover that it could be easily raised from the outside although his technique for doing so left it askew as witnessed by I think, one of the GNR.

Why would anyone "stage" a scenario ... then as their very first action dive in feet first and destroy the set-up before anyone could see it?
For the same reason anyone would choose to walk through town at 10pm carrying the corpse of their dead child uncovered for all to see - that reason is: having carefully constructed an abduction scenario they then went into a blind panic and did lots of daft things, but nevertheless still managed to get away with it without leaving any tangible evidence”. Innit though.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #873 on: December 20, 2018, 06:25:30 PM »
Because GA used it (fully open or half open) in his theory to show Kate staged the crime scene and that the scene had been changed before Amy Tierney got there.

Did he have any evidence of staging or is that a silly question

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #874 on: December 20, 2018, 06:56:21 PM »
Did he have any evidence of staging or is that a silly question
He is developing a theory, so the same evidence can be interpreted differently in different theories.

An open window could be an escape route for an abductor.
An open window could be opened by Madeleine looking for her dad.
An open window could be opened by Kate as staging.
An open window could be opened in an attempted burglary.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #875 on: January 04, 2019, 11:44:27 PM »
For the same reason anyone would choose to walk through town at 10pm carrying the corpse of their dead child uncovered for all to see - that reason is: having carefully constructed an abduction scenario they then went into a blind panic and did lots of daft things, but nevertheless still managed to get away with it without leaving any tangible evidence”. Innit though.

You were quite happy to accept that JT saw MBM being abducted for years, perhaps still do, did JT confirm that the child  being carried was dead or alive?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #876 on: January 05, 2019, 12:01:26 AM »
You were quite happy to accept that JT saw MBM being abducted for years, perhaps still do, did JT confirm that the child  being carried was dead or alive?
Did JT say she saw a man carrying a dead child through town?  I don’t think she did.  Also, if you can’t see the difference between an anonymous man carrying an uncovered child (dead or alive) and the child’s own father carrying her body through town, a man who would a few hours later present himself in front of the world’s media for all to see (including the numerous individuals he allegedly passed on his mission) appealing for the return of said child then I can’t help you.
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Offline barrier

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #877 on: January 05, 2019, 08:40:15 AM »
He is developing a theory, so the same evidence can be interpreted differently in different theories.

An open window could be an escape route for an abductor.
An open window could be opened by Madeleine looking for her dad.
An open window could be opened by Kate as staging.
An open window could be opened in an attempted burglary.

An open window could also be for passing the child through in a staged abduction,just a thought.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #878 on: January 05, 2019, 10:29:03 AM »
An open window could also be for passing the child through in a staged abduction,just a thought.

Isn't the result exactly the same for the victim of the crime who was passed through the window? 
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #879 on: January 05, 2019, 10:32:40 AM »
Isn't the result exactly the same for the victim of the crime who was passed through the window?

I have always believed that Madeleine was passed through the wind to another abductor because the child Jane Tanner saw was being carried in the opposite fashion to which Madeleine would have been picked up out of her bed.

Offline jassi

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #880 on: January 05, 2019, 10:32:54 AM »
Isn't the result exactly the same for the victim of the crime who was passed through the window?

Same action - different person - different crime
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Offline Brietta

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #881 on: January 05, 2019, 10:36:53 AM »
I have always believed that Madeleine was passed through the wind to another abductor because the child Jane Tanner saw was being carried in the opposite fashion to which Madeleine would have been picked up out of her bed.

  ... and we still don't know why Dr Totman was walking in the wrong direction.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline barrier

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #882 on: January 05, 2019, 10:37:19 AM »
I have always believed that Madeleine was passed through the wind to another abductor because the child Jane Tanner saw was being carried in the opposite fashion to which Madeleine would have been picked up out of her bed.


Not quite what I had in mind,but not too far away.
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Offline barrier

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #883 on: January 05, 2019, 10:44:12 AM »
  ... and we still don't know why Dr Totman was walking in the wrong direction.


Wrong direction for what,all Redwood said was a person was in the exact same area at that time.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #884 on: January 05, 2019, 10:44:53 AM »
Same action - different person - different crime

The Portuguese police of the time were unable to determine what crime had been committed partly I believe as a direct result of the blinkered attitude taken by the investigators ... remnants of which still rears its ugly head in a time warp adhered to by some, oblivious to the fact time has moved on as far as the present investigations are concerned.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....