Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.

[faithlilly]

This is just more confusion about Doors.  Everybody was confused about Doors.

I can’t remember anyone being confused about doors.

[Robittybob1]

This is just more confusion about Doors.  Everybody was confused about Doors.

It is really important though to sort it out.

If someone came in the window on the car park side they would leave by the door on the same side.  A kidnapper would not worry about leaving the door open. 

OK how did Kate first read the scene as she found it?
All she saw was the window open and the shutters up.  Front door was closed as far as she knows, so where did the open front door concept come from?

[barrier]

I think she was quite capable of repeating what she had been told, and the door clearly features in early reports.

Madeleine’s aunt, Trish Cameron.......said..........The door was lying open.........“They think someone must have come in the window and gone out the door with her.”
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/1may7/Sun1_04_05_2007.htm

Which Mitchell later cleared up.

Mr Mitchell made his comments when questioned by a 'Prime Time' team in a report on the disappearance to be screened tomorrow. "There was no evidence of a break-in," said Mr Mitchell.
"I'm not going into the detail, but I can say that Kate and Gerry are firmly of the view that somebody got into the apartment and took Madeleine out the window as their means of escape, and to do that they did not necessarily have to tamper with anything. They got out of the window fairly easily."

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/mccann-family-reverse-story-over-breakin-evidence-26327114.html

[Robittybob1]

Which Mitchell later cleared up.

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/mccann-family-reverse-story-over-breakin-evidence-26327114.html

You would wonder why they never changed their beliefs.  OK I can accept Kate's thinking when faced with the scene, but if the PJ say no one went through the open window, surely the McCanns need to reconsider their initial assumptions.

[Brietta]

I can’t remember anyone being confused about doors.

I wonder why the interviewing officer felt some clarification was necessary if that is the case.

Snip
4078    “And what was, if you were to go in through the, well I know we’ve discussed this in the office and it’s difficult to say the front door or the back door of the apartment because there’s some confusion.”
Reply    “Yeah.”

4078    “If we were to say poolside and roadside, would that make it clearer as to what I was referring to?”
Reply    “Yeah, yeah.”

4078    “Which, which entrance did you use mostly?”
Reply    “For checking or for anything?”

4078    “For anything. Was there a check, that you’d use mostly?”
Reply    “Err the back, the roadside entrance because you couldn’t actually get in to the err the poolside entrance but there was no key to get in from the outside so you could only get in there if it was unlocked. It was sort of like a, you know like patio doors have a…”

4078    “Yeah.”
Reply    “Thing that goes up and down.”

4078    “Oh right.”
Reply    “So the only time we’d have probably used the back, the poolside entrance is during the day if somebody else was in there already.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_RIGATORY.htm

[Robittybob1]

Jane in this portion calls the front side the "back".

"4078    “Which, which entrance did you use mostly?”
Reply    “For checking or for anything?”

4078    “For anything. Was there a check, that you’d use mostly?”
Reply    “Err the back, the roadside entrance...."

[Robittybob1]

there was a YouTube video produced by Colombo recently and when he read it out I was knocked over by the glaring error in the statement.

https://youtu.be/JGtP1uFpCuY  "Madeleine McCann columbo 5a the apartment window"

At around the 4:40 mark he begins discussing Dianne Webster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGtP1uFpCuY&feature=youtu.be&t=251

When he gets to Fiona Paynes statement he reads this bit:
"Reply
 'Erm, tut, she sort of raced back and she just appeared at the doors of the sort of reception area and just shouted across, erm, 'She's gone. Gerry, Madeleine's gone'. And, you know, well you can just imagine the shock maybe. So everyone was just sort of still for what seemed like, sort of five seconds or so. Gerry jumped up and went 'She can't be gone' and raced off with Kate. And obviously we all followed, bar my mum, who I had said, I had the baby monitor, our baby monitor, and, plus, at that point, I just thought well, you know, the assumption was that she must have just wandered off, so I said to mum, you know, 'You stay put here just in case Madeleine comes down to the pool area' and gave her the monitor, our baby monitor, and said 'You you listen out for our kids'."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

That to me only makes sense if she knew immediately that Madeleine had wandered from the apartment.

[G-Unit]

I wonder why the interviewing officer felt some clarification was necessary if that is the case.

Snip
4078    “And what was, if you were to go in through the, well I know we’ve discussed this in the office and it’s difficult to say the front door or the back door of the apartment because there’s some confusion.”
Reply    “Yeah.”

4078    “If we were to say poolside and roadside, would that make it clearer as to what I was referring to?”
Reply    “Yeah, yeah.”

4078    “Which, which entrance did you use mostly?”
Reply    “For checking or for anything?”

4078    “For anything. Was there a check, that you’d use mostly?”
Reply    “Err the back, the roadside entrance because you couldn’t actually get in to the err the poolside entrance but there was no key to get in from the outside so you could only get in there if it was unlocked. It was sort of like a, you know like patio doors have a…”

4078    “Yeah.”
Reply    “Thing that goes up and down.”

4078    “Oh right.”
Reply    “So the only time we’d have probably used the back, the poolside entrance is during the day if somebody else was in there already.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_RIGATORY.htm

The only person causing confusion seems to be Jane Tanner who used 'back' for both sides of the block.

“Err the back, the roadside entrance

the only time we’d have probably used the back, the poolside entrance

[Miss Taken Identity]

You would wonder why they never changed their beliefs.  OK I can accept Kate's thinking when faced with the scene, but if the PJ say no one went through the open window, surely the McCanns need to reconsider their initial assumptions.

Yes INDEED!

Their behaviour suggests otherwise, as Kate tells the group MBM was missing and NOT abducted- Diane staye behind in the Tapas bar just incase....?

They all went 'looking ' for  Madeleine, why?  if she was abducted, as claimed, she would have been long gone my dears. They searched the apartment - but she was MISSING so why bother doing that?
None of this behaviour makes any sense at all imo.

Kate claims she knew right away her daughter was abducted due to the curtains whooshing and door being a different angle (yeah, I know), and shutters being up. so what did this distraught mother do?
Call the police right away- scream at the top of her voice from the balcony to attract the groups attention? (they claimed is was like sitting in the garden, so was it really?) No!

None of that at all.   hmmm

The mother after knowing her daughter was abducted left her other two children alone- to go and tell the others in the group MBM was missing. The reason she gave was she didn't want to wake the twins? what  I mean FFS your daughters been kidknapped and you don't want to wake the twins...I would imagine crying twins would be the ,least of the bloody worries in that scenario... well, I am of the opinion it was all staged and reads like a bad drama .

[G-Unit]

Even if the McCanns thought MM had been abducted, I can understand Gerry searching the route to the creche on the off chance. That kind of fits in with the unlocked patio door. Gerry searching the upper floors of Block 5 doesn't. It does, however, fit with a front door found 'lying open' as Trish Cameron said.

[Eleanor]

Yes INDEED!

Their behaviour suggests otherwise, as Kate tells the group MBM was missing and NOT abducted- Diane staye behind in the Tapas bar just incase....?

They all went 'looking ' for  Madeleine, why?  if she was abducted, as claimed, she would have been long gone my dears. They searched the apartment - but she was MISSING so why bother doing that?
None of this behaviour makes any sense at all imo.

Kate claims she knew right away her daughter was abducted due to the curtains whooshing and door being a different angle (yeah, I know), and shutters being up. so what did this distraught mother do?
Call the police right away- scream at the top of her voice from the balcony to attract the groups attention? (they claimed is was like sitting in the garden, so was it really?) No!

None of that at all.   hmmm

The mother after knowing her daughter was abducted left her other two children alone- to go and tell the others in the group MBM was missing. The reason she gave was she didn't want to wake the twins? what  I mean FFS your daughters been kidknapped and you don't want to wake the twins...I would imagine crying twins would be the ,least of the bloody worries in that scenario... well, I am of the opinion it was all staged and reads like a bad drama .

This comment has no logic and makes no sense.

[Robittybob1]

Even if the McCanns thought MM had been abducted, I can understand Gerry searching the route to the creche on the off chance. That kind of fits in with the unlocked patio door. Gerry searching the upper floors of Block 5 doesn't. It does, however, fit with a front door found 'lying open' as Trish Cameron said.

That is another important clue that someone might have known the front door had been found open at some stage prior to Kate's check.  "Gerry searching the upper floors of Block 5"

OK he might think a rapist may have taken her up there or she wandered up there?  Both highly unlikely IMO.

[Robittybob1]

Yes INDEED!

Their behaviour suggests otherwise, as Kate tells the group MBM was missing and NOT abducted- Diane staye behind in the Tapas bar just incase....?

They all went 'looking ' for  Madeleine, why?  if she was abducted, as claimed, she would have been long gone my dears. They searched the apartment - but she was MISSING so why bother doing that?
None of this behaviour makes any sense at all imo.

Kate claims she knew right away her daughter was abducted due to the curtains whooshing and door being a different angle (yeah, I know), and shutters being up. so what did this distraught mother do?
Call the police right away- scream at the top of her voice from the balcony to attract the groups attention? (they claimed is was like sitting in the garden, so was it really?) No!

None of that at all.   hmmm

The mother after knowing her daughter was abducted left her other two children alone- to go and tell the others in the group MBM was missing. The reason she gave was she didn't want to wake the twins? what  I mean FFS your daughters been kidknapped and you don't want to wake the twins...I would imagine crying twins would be the ,least of the bloody worries in that scenario... well, I am of the opinion it was all staged and reads like a bad drama .

Matt went to call the police at the main reception.  OK IMO as far as Kate was concerned this was the quickest way to call the police, but for some reason the call was never made.

[Brietta]

That is another important clue that someone might have known the front door had been found open at some stage prior to Kate's check.  "Gerry searching the upper floors of Block 5"

OK he might think a rapist may have taken her up there or she wandered up there?  Both highly unlikely IMO.

Why?  She had been to the Payne apartment on an upper floor on at least one occasion.

[G-Unit]

That is another important clue that someone might have known the front door had been found open at some stage prior to Kate's check.  "Gerry searching the upper floors of Block 5"

OK he might think a rapist may have taken her up there or she wandered up there?  Both highly unlikely IMO.

Both are highly unlikely unless there was a clue pointing in that direction; such as an open front door.