Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.

[The General]

Sorry, your ideas don't make much sense to me.  There is no logic to them.

Thanks for the insightful response.
There's no logic to using the same secluded entrance to exit? There's no logic in parking the car next to the apartment back entrance, in cover and able to coast down the road with no lights or engine?
There's no logic to not bothering to open any 3rd entrance when it's not necessary and there's no time?

If you think that window was used, then I contend it is YOU who need to show why anyone would bother, given Brietta's window of opportunity of 'seconds' and why open a window on the same elevation as a door?

[The General]

Portugal drives on the right.  A car immediately outside of the garden gate, facing downhill, on its RHS of the road, would have been parked legally.

One does not stroll over to a GNR car and tell them they appear to be parked illegally, unless one enjoys confrontation.

Incidentally, this may help explain the Jane, Jez, Gerry incident.  It would have been normal for Tapas staff to park immediately outside the Tapas entrance, probably facing downhill, on the west side of the street.

The only reference I am aware of is Stephen Carpenter, who said he passed between parked cars there, and checked for more traffic.

Hence my point which should help abduction believers. Just park right outside the gate, in semi-darkness and roll down the road, no lights, no engine until you're past the Tapas entrance....that's how criminals operate.
But alas, as we've seen, this most simple and obvious of escape modes just doesn't tally with the window nonsense most of them rely on.

[The General]

The lock on the front door was rim lock (more like a Yale). but the door as long as it wasn't deadlocked it could be opened easily from the inside.  I had a whole thread on the door. 

There was a light left on in the lounge.

Thank you. So you have a perfect scenario for your abductor: illumination, an open back door, using the most secluded and gloomy access point with a simply opened front door, nobody home. Rush in through the patio door, maybe listen for a few seconds, walk straight to the front door (or not), put it on the snip or open it, take the wee an, straight back down through the way you came, in to the car - whoosh! Gone. Takes literally seconds.
So why the window?

[Robittybob1]

This is oft repeated but where's the evidence this is so of 5a?
Also the shutters were not seen to be up and the window open at 9-30.

No one looked.  Matt and Russell walked past along the footpath and didn't look at the shutters from the exterior. 
Once inside the curtains hid the shutters and the window.  There are photos of the 5A shutter partially raised.  It is being held up by the mechanism I've talked about above.

[barrier]

Thank you. So you have a perfect scenario for your abductor: illumination, an open back door, using the most secluded and gloomy access point with a simply opened front door, nobody home. Rush in through the patio door, maybe listen for a few seconds, walk straight to the front door (or not), put it on the snip or open it, take the wee an, straight back down through the way you came, in to the car - whoosh! Gone. Takes literally seconds.
So why the window?

Indeed.

[barrier]

No one looked.  Matt and Russell walked past along the footpath and didn't look at the shutters from the exterior. 
Once inside the curtains hid the shutters and the window.  There are photos of the 5A shutter partially raised.  It is being held up by the mechanism I've talked about above.

MO checked the bedroom at 9-30,no mention of an open window and raised shutter.
Partially raised shutter doesn't allow for an adult to pass through does it?

[barrier]

No one looked.  Matt and Russell walked past along the footpath and didn't look at the shutters from the exterior. 
Once inside the curtains hid the shutters and the window.  There are photos of the 5A shutter partially raised.  It is being held up by the mechanism I've talked about above.

These? its hardly showing any locking mechanism that it can be fully locked open.Perhaps cuddle cat was the target with that small gap.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/5A_PHOTO_REPORT.htm

[Robittybob1]

Thank you. So you have a perfect scenario for your abductor: illumination, an open back door, using the most secluded and gloomy access point with a simply opened front door, nobody home. Rush in through the patio door, maybe listen for a few seconds, walk straight to the front door (or not), put it on the snip or open it, take the wee an, straight back down through the way you came, in to the car - whoosh! Gone. Takes literally seconds.
So why the window?

If you parked at the gate and left by the front door you end up with a 50 meter walk back to your car carrying a child.   I wouldn't do that.

The problem with leaving via the front door is that you need the key to close it from the outside, or you can close it the same way you opened it from the inside.

Any  thought that it was a just a quick job to pick up Madeleine is upset if Madeleine is already out of her bed or worse still if she leaves by the front door as the intruder is entering via the patio door.

[Robittybob1]

These? its hardly showing any locking mechanism that it can be fully locked open.Perhaps cuddle cat was the target with that small gap.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/5A_PHOTO_REPORT.htm

That photo was taken hours after both Gerry and Dianne had interfered with the shutter.

[barrier]

If you parked at the gate and left by the front door you end up with a 50 meter walk back to your car carrying a child.   I wouldn't do that.

The problem with leaving via the front door is that you need the key to close it from the outside, or you can close it the same way you opened it from the inside.

Any  thought that it was a just a quick job to pick up Madeleine is upset if Madeleine is already out of her bed.

If you want a woke and wandered, the front door was left open by a burglar after disturbing Madeleine,she followed,the door then slammed shut just like the bedroom door did with Kate,simples.

[Robittybob1]

If you want a woke and wandered, the front door was left open by a burglar after disturbing Madeleine,she followed,the door then slammed shut just like the bedroom door did with Kate,simples.

There was evidence to show the front door was made so that it could not just be slammed shut,  It had to be shut using a key from the outside or the lever from the inside.  There is a video of people using this type of lock.

[barrier]

There was evidence to show the front door was made so that it could not just be slammed shut,  It had to be shut using a key from the outside or the lever from the inside.  There is a video of people using this type of lock.

So its out the patio doors then.Child gate at the top of the steps I believe,gate at the bottom.

Photo 15 for the child gate.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/5A_PHOTO_REPORT.htm

[The General]

If you parked at the gate and left by the front door you end up with a 50 meter walk back to your car carrying a child.   I wouldn't do that.

The problem with leaving via the front door is that you need the key to close it from the outside, or you can close it the same way you opened it from the inside.

Any  thought that it was a just a quick job to pick up Madeleine is upset if Madeleine is already out of her bed or worse still if she leaves by the front door as the intruder is entering via the patio door.

No, maybe I wasn't clear. Nobody is using the front door (not even Gerry because he couldn't be arsed walking round, hence why he left the patio door open). The door may have been opened by this abductor as a secondary means of escape. Nobody in their right mind would walk out of the front door not knowing what's going on out there, when you have a perfectly reasonable mode of egress through the way you came.

[Eleanor]

Thank you. So you have a perfect scenario for your abductor: illumination, an open back door, using the most secluded and gloomy access point with a simply opened front door, nobody home. Rush in through the patio door, maybe listen for a few seconds, walk straight to the front door (or not), put it on the snip or open it, take the wee an, straight back down through the way you came, in to the car - whoosh! Gone. Takes literally seconds.
So why the window?

Wasn't Gez Wilkins wandering around at the time?

[The General]

So its out the patio doors then.Child gate at the top of the steps I believe,gate at the bottom.

Photo 15 for the child gate.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/5A_PHOTO_REPORT.htm

Those photos are professionally lit. Look how dark and secluded that access is. You would have to go full retard to use any other mode of access and egress.