Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.

[The General]

Not if they had been observing the pattern all week.

If this checking was as described they would have gone elsewhere. Too many eyes, too many variables.

[Vertigo Swirl]

So why not lock it then from the inside then? It would really encumber someone for about 30 seconds.

Lock what?  The patio doors?  Wouldn’t that immediately alert the parent to the fact that something was amiss?

[The General]

Would passing the child out of the window have been more conspicuous than leaving the apartment from either door carrying the child?  I don’t see why.  The window was shielded from view by foliage and not lit.

I see why. It's totally unnatural. Walking out of the door is totally natural, that's what they're designed for.
An imbecile might, but according to the abduction narrative, ours were slick.

[barrier]

Lock what?  The patio doors?  Wouldn’t that immediately alert the parent to the fact that something was amiss?

When? Madeleine was there when Gerry checked,gone when Kate checked.

[Vertigo Swirl]

If this checking was as described they would have gone elsewhere. Too many eyes, too many variables.

No.  The parents claimed they checked on the kids every 30 minutes, that’s plenty of time.  Once you see an adult leaving the apartment at 9pm you know it’s unlikely anyone will be back until 9.30pm.  In like Flynn.

[barrier]

No.  The parents claimed they checked on the kids every 30 minutes, that’s plenty of time.  Once you see an adult leaving the apartment at 9pm you know it’s unlikely anyone will be back until 9.30pm.  In like Flynn.

GM never left the apartment at 9pm though,so the time becomes even narrower.Circa 9-10 I believe.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I see why. It's totally unnatural. Walking out of the door is totally natural, that's what they're designed for.
An imbecile might, but according to the abduction narrative, ours were slick.

Are you suggesting burglars never leave buildings via windows but will always exit via doors if possible?  Is this set in stone?

[The General]

Lock what?  The patio doors?  Wouldn’t that immediately alert the parent to the fact that something was amiss?

So what at this point? Who cares when you're in the apartment? You're committed. As I mentioned earlier, you can put barriers in the way (the shovel on the stairs). Locking the patio door buys valuable seconds to foxtrot oscar. I would even abandon the child and get on my toes.

[The General]

Are you suggesting burglars never leave buildings via windows but will always exit via doors if possible?  Is this set in stone?

But there's an uncompromised, open patio door and a simply opened front door. If your burglar was out of options he would probably launch himself through an upstairs window if he had to. But it's the easiest means possible first.

[Vertigo Swirl]

When? Madeleine was there when Gerry checked,gone when Kate checked.

I think you misunderstood.  I mean that as soon as a parent tried to open the patio door and found it locked (when they knew it had been left unlocked) they would know something was amiss.  So if an abductor locked the patio door after entering to prevent anyone else getting in while he was in there, then the person trying to open the door would be immediately alerted.

[barrier]

I see why. It's totally unnatural. Walking out of the door is totally natural, that's what they're designed for.
An imbecile might, but according to the abduction narrative, ours were slick.

There's no evidence of any one climbing out the window,if handing the child out to an accomplish the one inside must have left through either the front door or patio door,if doing that, take the child the same way,most plausible isn't it? Thats  in the unlikely scenario of at least two jimmy abductors.

[barrier]

I think you misunderstood.  I mean that as soon as a parent tried to open the patio door and found it locked (when they knew it had been left unlocked) they would know something was amiss.  So if an abductor locked the patio door after entering to prevent anyone else getting in while he was in there, then the person trying to open the door would be immediately alerted.

Kate knew something was amiss with in seconds of entering so a few seconds earlier would not have made an iota imo.

[Vertigo Swirl]

But there's an uncompromised, open patio door and a simply opened front door. If your burglar was out of options he would probably launch himself through an upstairs window if he had to. But it's the easiest means possible first.

I’ve suggested a reason why, maybe there are others.  I don’t think walking back through the apartment, through the sliding doors, down the steps and round the corner bumping into who knows whom is a very sensible move.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Kate knew something was amiss with in seconds of entering so a few seconds earlier would not have made an iota imo.

An abductor is not to know that.  Frankly I’ve never heard of a burglar or abductor locking themselves into a house they’re burgling, that seems most unlikely to me.

[faithlilly]

Sorry, your ideas don't make much sense to me.  There is no logic to them.

I think the General is one of the most logical posters here.