Author Topic: ISIS Brides, should they be allowed back ?  (Read 12746 times)

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: ISIS Brides, should they be allowed back ?
« Reply #45 on: February 19, 2019, 07:59:48 PM »
It seems Shamima Begum has had her British citizenship revoked.
Good news, and confirms what I said a couple of days ago.
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Online Eleanor

Re: ISIS Brides, should they be allowed back ?
« Reply #46 on: February 19, 2019, 08:15:52 PM »
It seems Shamima Begum has had her British citizenship revoked.

It seems she is entitled to a Bangladeshi Passport.  Her son is not entitled to a British Passport.

Excellent outcome.

Offline Brietta

Re: ISIS Brides, should they be allowed back ?
« Reply #47 on: February 19, 2019, 08:34:28 PM »
It seems she is entitled to a Bangladeshi Passport.  Her son is not entitled to a British Passport.

Excellent outcome.
The poor wee child.  Perhaps Dutch or perhaps Bangladeshi but certainly stateless at the moment.  A bit ironic considering his maternal grandparents made the leap to come to Britain no doubt for a better life.  Which his mother has just taken it into her mind to trample into the dust on his behalf without giving it a thought much as she didn't give a thought to those displaced, terrorised or killed by the Daesh monsters whose ideals she actively espoused.
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Online Eleanor

Re: ISIS Brides, should they be allowed back ?
« Reply #48 on: February 19, 2019, 08:40:47 PM »
The poor wee child.  Perhaps Dutch or perhaps Bangladeshi but certainly stateless at the moment.  A bit ironic considering his maternal grandparents made the leap to come to Britain no doubt for a better life.  Which his mother has just taken it into her mind to trample into the dust on his behalf without giving it a thought much as she didn't give a thought to those displaced, terrorised or killed by the Daesh monsters whose ideals she actively espoused.

In these situations, and there will be others, only The Law can apply.  The child could well be entitled to a Dutch Passport.

Removing him from his mother sounds like a good idea to me.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: ISIS Brides, should they be allowed back ?
« Reply #49 on: February 19, 2019, 10:13:57 PM »
It seems she is entitled to a Bangladeshi Passport.  Her son is not entitled to a British Passport.

Excellent outcome.

It is indeed an excellent outcome. Her parents talk about her being groomed and brainwashed- the only reason she is coming back is because they lost ground in their  world domination plan! AND she is hungry and it isn't nice over there anymore.


She also claims that the Manchester Bombing was justified...


Her family must be wealthy  I doubt if they will get legal aid as they have no claim to make. Their daughter is an adult who enjoys being a terrorist- talking the talk and walking the walk! will not receive legal aid either.

 
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Offline G-Unit

Re: ISIS Brides, should they be allowed back ?
« Reply #50 on: February 20, 2019, 06:59:40 AM »
In my opinion the Home Secretary knows very well that he is breaking international law. What he has achieved is a delay.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: ISIS Brides, should they be allowed back ?
« Reply #51 on: February 20, 2019, 07:13:08 AM »
In my opinion the Home Secretary knows very well that he is breaking international law. What he has achieved is a delay.
And good on him I say. 
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline G-Unit

Re: ISIS Brides, should they be allowed back ?
« Reply #52 on: February 20, 2019, 07:27:24 AM »
And good on him I say.

Why this girl when 400 others, including fighters, have been allowed back in?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: ISIS Brides, should they be allowed back ?
« Reply #53 on: February 20, 2019, 07:31:05 AM »
Why this girl when 400 others, including fighters, have been allowed back in?
These two havenít
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2018/oct/09/uk-has-no-legal-obligations-over-isis-suspects-el-shafee-elsheikh-high-court-told

Itís time we got tougher and stopped letting these people back.  Most UK citizens agree with me so it is the will of the people.
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline G-Unit

Re: ISIS Brides, should they be allowed back ?
« Reply #54 on: February 20, 2019, 08:38:48 AM »
These two havenít
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2018/oct/09/uk-has-no-legal-obligations-over-isis-suspects-el-shafee-elsheikh-high-court-told

Itís time we got tougher and stopped letting these people back.  Most UK citizens agree with me so it is the will of the people.

We can get tough if we have the laws needed. Getting tough by bending the law is another matter. Hundreds have been allowed back but only 40 have been prosecuted. If the UK want to get tough they need to pass new laws.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1088454/shamima-begum-isis-news-islamic-state-home-office-returning-jihadis

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Online Eleanor

Re: ISIS Brides, should they be allowed back ?
« Reply #55 on: February 20, 2019, 09:14:52 AM »
We can get tough if we have the laws needed. Getting tough by bending the law is another matter. Hundreds have been allowed back but only 40 have been prosecuted. If the UK want to get tough they need to pass new laws.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1088454/shamima-begum-isis-news-islamic-state-home-office-returning-jihadis

The will of the people isn't expressed in newspaper stories, it's exppressed via the Ballot Box.

If any of these persons has the right to another passport then they can be deprived of their UK Nationality.  That is already The Law.

Offline G-Unit

Re: ISIS Brides, should they be allowed back ?
« Reply #56 on: February 20, 2019, 10:04:34 AM »
If any of these persons has the right to another passport then they can be deprived of their UK Nationality.  That is already The Law.

If being the important word. It's by no means certain that this girl has the right to Bangladeshi nationality. If she had the right she wouldn't need to ask for it and they wouldn't be able to refuse her imo.
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Online Eleanor

Re: ISIS Brides, should they be allowed back ?
« Reply #57 on: February 20, 2019, 10:33:53 AM »
If being the important word. It's by no means certain that this girl has the right to Bangladeshi nationality. If she had the right she wouldn't need to ask for it and they wouldn't be able to refuse her imo.

Her mother has a Bangladeshi Passport.  This girl only has to apply.  She cannot be refused.

Offline G-Unit

Re: ISIS Brides, should they be allowed back ?
« Reply #58 on: February 20, 2019, 11:24:33 AM »
Her mother has a Bangladeshi Passport.  This girl only has to apply.  She cannot be refused.

If one of her parents had settled status or indefinate leave to remain in the UK when she was born she is British by birth. Is there a cite confirming that Bangladesh can't refuse her application?
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Offline Davel

Re: ISIS Brides, should they be allowed back ?
« Reply #59 on: February 20, 2019, 11:59:35 AM »
If being the important word. It's by no means certain that this girl has the right to Bangladeshi nationality. If she had the right she wouldn't need to ask for it and they wouldn't be able to refuse her imo.

She has to ask for the passport and shows she is entitled to it... I can't see why she would be refused... If she was then it would be Bangladesh making her stateless
If a child was born in the US and both parents were British... What nationality would the child be.... Think about it
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