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Offline faithlilly

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #975 on: April 09, 2019, 11:44:59 PM »
The tradgedy for all her family is that life goes on without her in their family.

No as I said the people most impacted by this ‘choice’ were those with no part in it.

Offline Erngath

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #976 on: April 09, 2019, 11:51:45 PM »
No as I said the people most impacted by this ‘choice’ were those with no part in it.


You're quite emphatic with your opinion, aren't you?
Twice you have begun your response with No!!


Equally I can say that  making an unwise choice can also impact on those making that unwise choice.
It is tragic for all of Madeleine's family to have life go on without her.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #977 on: April 09, 2019, 11:54:11 PM »

You're quite emphatic with your opinion, aren't you?
Twice you have begun your response with No!!


Equally I can say that  making an unwise choice can also impact on those making that unwise choice.
It is tragic for all of Madeleine's family to have life go on without her.

But Madeleine is the real victim......as well, of course, as her child siblings who will never know their big sister because of their parent’s selfish choice.

Offline Erngath

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #978 on: April 09, 2019, 11:58:50 PM »
But Madeleine is the real victim......as well, of course, as her child siblings who will never know their big sister because of their parent’s selfish choice.

I didn't mention the word victim.
It goes without saying that Madeleine was the victim.
However my original post was that the decision made by all the adults resulted in tradgedy for Madeleine's family.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #979 on: April 10, 2019, 12:05:24 AM »
I didn't mention the word victim.
It goes without saying that Madeleine was the victim.
However my original post was that the decision made by all the adults resulted in tradgedy for Madeleine's family.

When a father who has been drinking has an accident while driving his daughter to a friends would you consider that to be his tragedy too ?

Offline Erngath

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #980 on: April 10, 2019, 12:07:17 AM »
When a father who has been drinking has an accident while driving his daughter to a friends would you consider that to be his tragedy too ?

Yes .
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #981 on: April 10, 2019, 12:14:17 AM »
Yes .

I think you’d be in a minority then.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #982 on: April 10, 2019, 07:37:39 AM »
I think you’d be in a minority then.
People do stupid, even illegal things sometimes with tragic consequences both for their nearest and dearest and themselves.  I think anyone with warmth and empathy  would accept that the situation described by yourself is tragic for all concerned.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #983 on: April 10, 2019, 07:58:03 AM »
Yes .

Then the next time someone brings up that Amaral may have driven his daughter after drinking you’ll put that down to simply a bad choice ?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #984 on: April 10, 2019, 08:08:56 AM »
Then the next time someone brings up that Amaral may have driven his daughter after drinking you’ll put that down to simply a bad choice ?
Of course it was a bad choice and illegal. If she’d died because if his actions it would have been a tragedy for the Amaral family, himself included.  Alcoholics are often seen as tragic figures.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2019, 08:11:08 AM by Vertigo Swirl »

Offline Erngath

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #985 on: April 10, 2019, 09:52:38 AM »
Then the next time someone brings up that Amaral may have driven his daughter after drinking you’ll put that down to simply a bad choice ?


Indeed!
Amaral made the wrong choice/ decision but with no bad intent.
Fortunately for his daughter, and himself and his family his decision to drive while likely being drunk did not result in a tradgedy for them all.

Madeleine's parents and their friends made the wrong choice/decision  with no bad intent but sadly it did result in tradgedy for Madeleine and all her family.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2019, 09:56:40 AM by Erngath »
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Offline Brietta

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #986 on: April 10, 2019, 12:10:29 PM »
When a father who has been drinking has an accident while driving his daughter to a friends would you consider that to be his tragedy too ?

Is that in reference to the accusation made against Amaral for drunk driving while his daughter was a passenger?
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7802.msg366311#msg366311
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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #987 on: April 10, 2019, 09:46:22 PM »
Is that in reference to the accusation made against Amaral for drunk driving while his daughter was a passenger?
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7802.msg366311#msg366311
A drunk driver is putting a lot of other people at risk too, not just himself and his passengers.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #988 on: April 10, 2019, 11:08:27 PM »
Is that in reference to the accusation made against Amaral for drunk driving while his daughter was a passenger?
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7802.msg366311#msg366311

You appear not to agree with Erngath that Amaral simply made a bad choice like the McCanns.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #989 on: April 10, 2019, 11:48:01 PM »
It’s been forgiven by the people that matter as far as the McCanns are concerned I’m sure, and I would imagine that what a bunch of judgemental self-righteous armchair detectives have to say on the matter is neither here nor there to them.

So those that matter... has Madeliene forgiven her parents ?AND if she were found alive - in plain sight as has been suggested, are we to belive that when MBM reads about what her parents did she will forgive them?  Interesting!
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