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Online Davel

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #150 on: March 12, 2019, 01:16:37 PM »
Your opriginal claim that  they had 'removed all reference to it' was incorrect. Just because you can'r see something doesn't mean it's not there.
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It was on site for public view.   ...it's now disappeared...if you wish to disagree fine..  But it's pointless to argue, as you seem to want to do... And it begs the question.. Why
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Online G-Unit

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #151 on: March 12, 2019, 01:27:24 PM »
I agree but you would think they would report all the facts nearly 12 years on.

In my opinion CMOMM are now in a similar position to those who support the McCann;s version of events. Both groups believe they know what happened so anything that doesn't fit with their beliefs has to be rejected.
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Online Davel

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #152 on: March 12, 2019, 01:28:19 PM »
I agree but you would think they would report all the facts nearly 12 years on.

He is pushing parental involvement so he's reporting what suits him... He reports that petermac says, the window is to small fir a man to climb through... Which it false ... But doesn't report that petermac says the shutters can be opened fron the outside... Preferring amarals opinion that the shutters, couldn't be opened from the outside.. Which again is, false
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #153 on: March 12, 2019, 01:33:49 PM »
Is there any sceptic here who has actually listened to these podcasts who is prepared to offer an opinion on the content?  Or is it simply enough that they exist and question the parents' version of events, no matter how many falsehoods or myths they contain?
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline jassi

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #154 on: March 12, 2019, 01:36:42 PM »
Is there any sceptic here who has actually listened to these podcasts who is prepared to offer an opinion on the content?  Or is it simply enough that they exist and question the parents' version of events, no matter how many falsehoods or myths they contain?

Got it in one. It's not causing sceptics any angst
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -   Into year 13 and still no solution.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #155 on: March 12, 2019, 01:55:12 PM »
Smithman can hide Maddy but not his overconfident cocky self! Best play the mute role again!
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #156 on: March 12, 2019, 01:56:31 PM »
Got it in one. It's not causing sceptics any angst
On the contrary, it seems to be causing a lot of happiness in those circles, obviously they have very low standards when it comes to supposedly fact-based podcasts...  @)(++(*
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline Faithlilly

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #157 on: March 12, 2019, 02:04:48 PM »
Itís interesting that I have not found one podcast which actively supports the parents innocence.
'She ( Kate) did, she brought it up and that she, I mean, this is awful in retrospect as well, she asked what my opinion was on, erm, tut, on whether they were okay leaving the, the doors unlocked, because she was saying 'Is it better that if Madeleine wakes up she can get out and find us or', erm, 'or locking it and, you know, finding that we're not there and the door's locked if she woke up', because Madeleine had woken up, what I thought was the night before. Erm, tut, and it was in that context really, just asking, you know, what I thought. So it was obviously something that was on her mind a bit, huh'.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #158 on: March 12, 2019, 02:06:48 PM »
Itís interesting that I have not found one podcast which actively supports the parents innocence.
Podcasts of this nature are the preserve of people who feel that their causes are being ignored by the "MSM" in my experience....  Why would anyone need to make a podcast supporting the parents' innocence??  Has anyone made a podcast supporting the idea that Al Qaeda flew planes into the twin towers?  Or that man landed on the moon? 
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline Brietta

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #159 on: March 12, 2019, 03:57:29 PM »
Why the obsession with going over the first four months of a botched police investigation in a pejorative way aimed solely at decrying the parents of a missing child.

The first hours and days were the crucial time in which to have any chance of finding out what happened to Madeleine when everything was fresh in witnesses' minds.

In my opinion the incompetence married to the ineptitude of the investigators over the first four months set the seal on any chance Madeleine had either of being recovered shortly after she disappeared or finding what had become of her.
The police tactic of tainting those first four vital months of the investigation with defamatory leaks to the press designed to decry eye witness statements and to assassinate the character of the victim's parents later the accused, could never have helped to solve whatever or whoever happened to Madeleine.
It was only a barrier to solving the case particularly as the golden hours crucial in a missing child case were squandered as a result.

Amaral's sacking came too late in the day to undo that level of harm.

Why eulogise the botched ideas which led to the four months of a botched investigation in a niche podcast for the few believers in the excellence of the first four months of the police investigation?
It flies in the face of the fact that Amaral ... the coordinator ... was sacked from it ignominiously.

It was the Portuguese authorities who did that ... so they must have had good reason.
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline Faithlilly

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #160 on: March 12, 2019, 04:31:52 PM »
Why the obsession with going over the first four months of a botched police investigation in a pejorative way aimed solely at decrying the parents of a missing child.

The first hours and days were the crucial time in which to have any chance of finding out what happened to Madeleine when everything was fresh in witnesses' minds.

In my opinion the incompetence married to the ineptitude of the investigators over the first four months set the seal on any chance Madeleine had either of being recovered shortly after she disappeared or finding what had become of her.
The police tactic of tainting those first four vital months of the investigation with defamatory leaks to the press designed to decry eye witness statements and to assassinate the character of the victim's parents later the accused, could never have helped to solve whatever or whoever happened to Madeleine.
It was only a barrier to solving the case particularly as the golden hours crucial in a missing child case were squandered as a result.

Amaral's sacking came too late in the day to undo that level of harm.

Why eulogise the botched ideas which led to the four months of a botched investigation in a niche podcast for the few believers in the excellence of the first four months of the police investigation?
It flies in the face of the fact that Amaral ... the coordinator ... was sacked from it ignominiously.

It was the Portuguese authorities who did that ... so they must have had good reason.

Of course they did...and weíve been told the reason... he spoke off the record in a disparaging way about the U.K. police involved in the investigation. I find it rather disingenuous for you to suggest that there was more to it on the Portuguese side then that.
'She ( Kate) did, she brought it up and that she, I mean, this is awful in retrospect as well, she asked what my opinion was on, erm, tut, on whether they were okay leaving the, the doors unlocked, because she was saying 'Is it better that if Madeleine wakes up she can get out and find us or', erm, 'or locking it and, you know, finding that we're not there and the door's locked if she woke up', because Madeleine had woken up, what I thought was the night before. Erm, tut, and it was in that context really, just asking, you know, what I thought. So it was obviously something that was on her mind a bit, huh'.

Offline Erngath

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #161 on: March 12, 2019, 04:38:36 PM »
Why the obsession with going over the first four months of a botched police investigation in a pejorative way aimed solely at decrying the parents of a missing child.

The first hours and days were the crucial time in which to have any chance of finding out what happened to Madeleine when everything was fresh in witnesses' minds.

In my opinion the incompetence married to the ineptitude of the investigators over the first four months set the seal on any chance Madeleine had either of being recovered shortly after she disappeared or finding what had become of her.
The police tactic of tainting those first four vital months of the investigation with defamatory leaks to the press designed to decry eye witness statements and to assassinate the character of the victim's parents later the accused, could never have helped to solve whatever or whoever happened to Madeleine.
It was only a barrier to solving the case particularly as the golden hours crucial in a missing child case were squandered as a result.

Amaral's sacking came too late in the day to undo that level of harm.

Why eulogise the botched ideas which led to the four months of a botched investigation in a niche podcast for the few believers in the excellence of the first four months of the police investigation?
It flies in the face of the fact that Amaral ... the coordinator ... was sacked from it ignominiously.

It was the Portuguese authorities who did that ... so they must have had good reason.
8@??)(
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #162 on: March 12, 2019, 04:41:44 PM »
Smithman can hide Maddy but not his overconfident cocky self! Best play the mute role again!
A non sequitur if ever there was one, and one that was liked by our resident Objective Evaluator of the Facts.  How very strange, I wonder what there was to like about this post?
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline Erngath

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #163 on: March 12, 2019, 05:45:45 PM »
Got it in one. It's not causing sceptics any angst

I can only speak for myself as a "supporter"  but it is certainly not causing me any "angst".
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline jassi

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #164 on: March 12, 2019, 05:57:15 PM »
I can only speak for myself as a "supporter"  but it is certainly not causing me any "angst".

No,no, of course not. I bet you are really happy that the blog is out there available to a wide audience.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -   Into year 13 and still no solution.