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Offline G-Unit

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #210 on: March 14, 2019, 12:17:01 PM »
Sone if us, already realise papers misquote.... Every time the spoken wird passes, from one to another there is the possibility for error

Error or deliberate distortion by a journalist who lacks integrity?
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Offline Davel

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #211 on: March 14, 2019, 12:26:25 PM »
Error or deliberate distortion by a journalist who lacks integrity?

Who knows.. That's why I prefer accurate verbatim statements... Less room for error
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #212 on: March 14, 2019, 03:05:34 PM »
Who knows.. That's why I prefer accurate verbatim statements... Less room for error

There are a couple of rogatory interviews which could qualify as specialist subjects on Mastermind in my opinion.
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Online Angelo222

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #213 on: March 14, 2019, 03:11:28 PM »
There are a couple of rogatory interviews which could qualify as specialist subjects on Mastermind in my opinion.

You mean on how to waffle an answer?
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Online ShiningInLuz

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #214 on: March 14, 2019, 04:53:13 PM »
You mean on how to waffle an answer?
Waffles.  Yum!

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Offline G-Unit

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #215 on: March 14, 2019, 05:56:46 PM »
You mean on how to waffle an answer?

Waffle and not answer more like.
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Offline Faithlilly

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #216 on: March 24, 2019, 08:40:25 AM »
https://www.9news.com.au/2019/03/23/20/27/madeleine-mccann-dna-car-evidence-could-now-be-solved-maddie-podcast

EXCLUSIVE: Maddie's DNA could be present in crucial samples as world expert rips up 'failed' UK forensic tests

One of the world's leading DNA scientists Ė whose lab helped identify victims of the 9/11 terror attack - has told Nine.com.au he believes he can answer a major forensic question that baffled investigators and could finally help solve what happened to missing girl Madeleine McCann, more than 11 years after she mysteriously vanished.

Speaking in tomorrow's fifth episode of Maddie, an American DNA expert reveals potentially case-changing insights into the DNA samples that were taken from the McCann's holiday apartment and rental car in 2007. Those samples were later judged to be inconclusive.

The chief scientist at a US-based, world renowned lab has reviewed the now out-dated testing methods used by the UK's Forensic Science Service (FSS) in 2007 to analyse the McCann samples. He has also examined a crucial final DNA report that was sent to the Portuguese police.

Portuguese police sent DNA samples to the FSS for testing after two specialist sniffer dogs trained to detect the scent of death and human blood alerted in the McCann's holiday apartment and a rental car hired three weeks after Maddie vanished. The FSS analysed the samples but struggled to untangle and decipher the potentially explosive evidence.

"[The FSS testing] failed in this case 10 years ago," the DNA scientist said.

"If a lab can produce informative data, even if it is complex and mixed, but they can't interpret it then you can have tremendous injustice - of guilty people not being convicted, or innocent people staying in prison. What is needed is an objective and accurate interpretation that can scientifically resolve the DNA."

The inconclusive DNA results from the FSS appeared to cast serious doubt over the earlier work of the cadaver dogs that had searched the potential crime scenes.



Kate and Gerry McCann 'less than convincing', former UK ambassador claims


The US forensic lab has forged a global reputation through solving previously indecipherable DNA samples. It has played a pivotal role in a number of high-profile US criminal trials involving wrongful convictions based on dodgy DNA evidence and controversial prosecutions.

In 2007, the now-closed British lab, the FSS, was forced to undertake a massive review of up to 2000 cases of violent crime, including rape and murder. There were concerns that the DNA tests relating to these criminal cases had failed to detect minute traces of DNA that could potentially have identified guilty parties.

The American DNA scientist will feature in Monday's episode five of Maddie, Nine.com.au's podcast investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance. Maddie quickly reached number one in the UK, Australia and New Zealand iTunes charts.

« Last Edit: March 24, 2019, 08:52:24 AM by Faithlilly »
'She ( Kate) did, she brought it up and that she, I mean, this is awful in retrospect as well, she asked what my opinion was on, erm, tut, on whether they were okay leaving the, the doors unlocked, because she was saying 'Is it better that if Madeleine wakes up she can get out and find us or', erm, 'or locking it and, you know, finding that we're not there and the door's locked if she woke up', because Madeleine had woken up, what I thought was the night before. Erm, tut, and it was in that context really, just asking, you know, what I thought. So it was obviously something that was on her mind a bit, huh'.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #217 on: March 24, 2019, 08:56:09 AM »
Madeleineís DNA could be present as could an abductorís, Muratís or the Man In The Moonís.  Sensationalist shite to sell more papers and podcasts. IMO.
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline jassi

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #218 on: March 24, 2019, 09:00:47 AM »
I don't recall claims that DNA results were too complex to interpret being raised before the McCann case arose, or indeed since then, for that matter.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #219 on: March 24, 2019, 09:02:07 AM »
https://www.9news.com.au/2019/03/23/20/27/madeleine-mccann-dna-car-evidence-could-now-be-solved-maddie-podcast

EXCLUSIVE: Maddie's DNA could be present in crucial samples as world expert rips up 'failed' UK forensic tests

One of the world's leading DNA scientists Ė whose lab helped identify victims of the 9/11 terror attack - has told Nine.com.au he believes he can answer a major forensic question that baffled investigators and could finally help solve what happened to missing girl Madeleine McCann, more than 11 years after she mysteriously vanished.

Speaking in tomorrow's fifth episode of Maddie, an American DNA expert reveals potentially case-changing insights into the DNA samples that were taken from the McCann's holiday apartment and rental car in 2007. Those samples were later judged to be inconclusive.

The chief scientist at a US-based, world renowned lab has reviewed the now out-dated testing methods used by the UK's Forensic Science Service (FSS) in 2007 to analyse the McCann samples. He has also examined a crucial final DNA report that was sent to the Portuguese police.

Portuguese police sent DNA samples to the FSS for testing after two specialist sniffer dogs trained to detect the scent of death and human blood alerted in the McCann's holiday apartment and a rental car hired three weeks after Maddie vanished. The FSS analysed the samples but struggled to untangle and decipher the potentially explosive evidence.

"[The FSS testing] failed in this case 10 years ago," the DNA scientist said.

"If a lab can produce informative data, even if it is complex and mixed, but they can't interpret it then you can have tremendous injustice - of guilty people not being convicted, or innocent people staying in prison. What is needed is an objective and accurate interpretation that can scientifically resolve the DNA."

The inconclusive DNA results from the FSS appeared to cast serious doubt over the earlier work of the cadaver dogs that had searched the potential crime scenes.



Kate and Gerry McCann 'less than convincing', former UK ambassador claims


The US forensic lab has forged a global reputation through solving previously indecipherable DNA samples. It has played a pivotal role in a number of high-profile US criminal trials involving wrongful convictions based on dodgy DNA evidence and controversial prosecutions.

In 2007, the now-closed British lab, the FSS, was forced to undertake a massive review of up to 2000 cases of violent crime, including rape and murder. There were concerns that the DNA tests relating to these criminal cases had failed to detect minute traces of DNA that could potentially have identified guilty parties.

The American DNA scientist will feature in Monday's episode five of Maddie, Nine.com.au's podcast investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance. Maddie quickly reached number one in the UK, Australia and New Zealand iTunes charts.

Where does Kate's, Gerry's and Madeleine's five day stay in Appartment 5a come into this?

Offline barrier

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #220 on: March 24, 2019, 09:02:30 AM »
  Sensationalist shite to sell more papers and podcasts. IMO.

Since 3/05/2007 what hasn't been.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #221 on: March 24, 2019, 09:04:14 AM »
I don't recall claims that DNA results were too complex to interpret being raised before the McCann case arose, or indeed since then, for that matter.

DNA has always been dodgy when it comes to solving Crimes, especially if there is a mixture.

Offline Davel

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #222 on: March 24, 2019, 09:15:29 AM »
It will be Mark Perlin promoting his very expensive  True Allele technique that will be no use in this case... Saunokoko has already shown he doesn't understand the evidence with his claim that Eddie had never been wrong in 200 cases... If he can't get his, basic facts right then he us misleading people with his podcasts..
If Eddie hadn't been wrong in 200 cases I would accept the alerts had value... But the claim simply is not true

If you read Grimes claim it's, easy to misunderstand but being pedantic I read it precisely
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #223 on: March 24, 2019, 09:23:22 AM »
Since 3/05/2007 what hasn't been.
Not all of it, but this one tells us nothing we didnít already know, just dressed up as something new and significant, which it isnít.
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline Davel

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #224 on: March 24, 2019, 09:31:48 AM »
Not all of it, but this one tells us nothing we didnít already know, just dressed up as something new and significant, which it isnít.

He also perpetuates myths... How can anyone ignore a dog that has never been wrong in 200 cases... Thus is why some people don't understand  the value of the alerts... Which are central to the case against the McCanns
mods can delete posts but...
The moving finger writes and having writ moves on...
nor all thy piety nor wit can lure me back to alter but  a line..nor all thy tears wash away  a word of it