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« Reply #300 on: March 25, 2019, 03:31:50 PM »
Sorry you're quite correct, it was me that used the term inconclusive for the DNA match.. but here's your's cite to swallow.  "What we need to consider, as scientists, is whether THE MATCH is genuine and legitimate; because Madeline has deposited DNA as a result of being in the car or whether Madeline merely appears TO MATCH the result by chance.

It's not a match, then why did they scientists say that it was? I'm getting the sense your suffering from indigestion.

Something that appears to match by chance is not a match
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« Reply #301 on: March 25, 2019, 04:03:46 PM »
Something that appears to match by chance is not a match
But if you don't swallow anything without evidence, I'm at a loss to understand how do you know the match wasn't a genuine match? Well? You don't swallow anything without evidence? It seems rather mean for you not to be willing to share it with us. Go on, just tell us how you know it's not a genuine match. Please? Pretty please?
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Gerry McCann: "If you think about the millions and millions of British families who go to the Mediterranean each year, really the chances of this happening are in the order of 100 million to one."

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« Reply #302 on: March 25, 2019, 04:14:55 PM »
But if you don't swallow anything without evidence, I'm at a loss to understand how do you know the match wasn't a genuine match? Well? You don't swallow anything without evidence? It seems rather mean for you not to be willing to share it with us. Go on, just tell us how you know it's not a genuine match. Please? Pretty please?

I don't know it's not a genuine match...
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« Reply #303 on: March 25, 2019, 04:24:23 PM »
I don't know it's not a genuine match...
Fair enough mate, me either.
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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #304 on: March 25, 2019, 05:45:36 PM »
But if you don't swallow anything without evidence, I'm at a loss to understand how do you know the match wasn't a genuine match? Well? You don't swallow anything without evidence? It seems rather mean for you not to be willing to share it with us. Go on, just tell us how you know it's not a genuine match. Please? Pretty please?
Inconclusive means you can't determine if it was a match or not.
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« Reply #305 on: March 25, 2019, 06:47:24 PM »
An article about Trueallele, a company whose methods are not completely without controversy https://www.wired.com/story/trueallele-software-transforming-how-courts-treat-dna-evidence/
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« Reply #306 on: March 25, 2019, 06:50:09 PM »
Mark Saunokonoko makes several errors in the podcast Eddie and Keela, but it would be an extreme amount of work to isolate the comments and refute them.  OK he might be 90% correct in what he has presented which is pretty good score over all.
He presents a subtle opinion generally supportive of the PJ.  I myself don't agree with that as I have already expressed despair at Amaral's attempt to interview all the OC MW staff even when their likelihood of them being involved was zero i.e. the Millennium staff.  But there were no interviews of the staff working in businesses where the McCanns actually went e.g. the local supermarket.
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« Reply #307 on: March 25, 2019, 07:15:57 PM »
Mark Saunokonoko makes several errors in the podcast Eddie and Keela, but it would be an extreme amount of work to isolate the comments and refute them.  OK he might be 90% correct in what he has presented which is pretty good score over all.
He presents a subtle opinion generally supportive of the PJ.  I myself don't agree with that as I have already expressed despair at Amaral's attempt to interview all the OC MW staff even when their likelihood of them being involved was zero i.e. the Millennium staff.  But there were no interviews of the staff working in businesses where the McCanns actually went e.g. the local supermarket.

He must be one of the best journalists. Did you catch the bit where Martin Brunt said the McCanns had been on holiday in Luz for almost two weeks when Madeleine disappeared lol?
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« Reply #308 on: March 25, 2019, 07:24:12 PM »
He must be one of the best journalists. Did you catch the bit where Martin Brunt said the McCanns had been on holiday in Luz for almost two weeks when Madeleine disappeared lol?

Danny Collins made the same mistake in his book.
'She ( Kate) did, she brought it up and that she, I mean, this is awful in retrospect as well, she asked what my opinion was on, erm, tut, on whether they were okay leaving the, the doors unlocked, because she was saying 'Is it better that if Madeleine wakes up she can get out and find us or', erm, 'or locking it and, you know, finding that we're not there and the door's locked if she woke up', because Madeleine had woken up, what I thought was the night before. Erm, tut, and it was in that context really, just asking, you know, what I thought. So it was obviously something that was on her mind a bit, huh'.

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« Reply #309 on: March 25, 2019, 07:31:57 PM »
Inconclusive means you can't determine if it was a match or not.
Thanks for the definition of inconclusive but you're addressing your reply to the wrong person.
I was replying to Davel's; "It wasn't a match to Madeleine and we dint know if Gerry contributed to it"
It's fine, nothing to worry about, we eventually managed to get him to admit he was doesn't know if it's a genuine match or not. To make a claim that the sample 'wasn't a match to Madeleine' sounds pretty conclusive to me, don't you think?
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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #310 on: March 25, 2019, 07:47:01 PM »
He must be one of the best journalists. Did you catch the bit where Martin Brunt said the McCanns had been on holiday in Luz for almost two weeks when Madeleine disappeared lol?
There are 6 podcasts available now and you ask me to note one particular portion.  To be honest I did not notice that actual statement.  To work out where to locate any "error" would be a mission.
It would come back to opinion.  We see the McCann and Payne families travelling to Portugal,  So IMO they were there  "in Luz for almost two weeks when Madeleine disappeared".  It might have just been an issue of recall or a slip of the tongue.
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« Reply #311 on: March 25, 2019, 07:47:38 PM »
Thanks for the definition of inconclusive but you're addressing your reply to the wrong person.
I was replying to Davel's; "It wasn't a match to Madeleine and we dint know if Gerry contributed to it"
It's fine, nothing to worry about, we eventually managed to get him to admit he was doesn't know if it's a genuine match or not. To make a claim that the sample 'wasn't a match to Madeleine' sounds pretty conclusive to me, don't you think?
A match to Madeleine wasn't found... Whether there is one is another question... Whether it has any importance is another question... Based on the evidence I think it has no importance.
At the moment... There is no match to Madeleine
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« Reply #312 on: March 25, 2019, 07:51:17 PM »
He must be one of the best journalists. Did you catch the bit where Martin Brunt said the McCanns had been on holiday in Luz for almost two weeks when Madeleine disappeared lol?

He's made several gross errors... Saying the dogs have never been wrong in 200 cases is one... Interviewing Levy and taking what he says as the truth is another..

He's a poor journalist IMO because he is not presenting a balanced view
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« Reply #313 on: March 25, 2019, 08:00:40 PM »
There are 6 podcasts available now and you ask me to note one particular portion.  To be honest I did not notice that actual statement.  To work out where to locate any "error" would be a mission.
It would come back to opinion.  We see the McCann and Payne families travelling to Portugal,  So IMO they were there  "in Luz for almost two weeks when Madeleine disappeared".  It might have just been an issue of recall or a slip of the tongue.

As you have just edited one of my posts I should point out your error... There are 5 podcasts available
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« Reply #314 on: March 25, 2019, 08:19:03 PM »
As you have just edited one of my posts I should point out your error... There are 5 podcasts available
Thanks but there are 6 listed on the playlist https://omny.fm/shows/maddie/the-dna?in_playlist=maddie!podcast

There are more planned so the numbers will change.
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