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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #60 on: September 05, 2019, 10:34:45 PM »
Well what is the new theory?

The theory is much harder to define.  In this new theory Melinda is involved somehow.

The hair,  the palm print,  having access keys, knowledge of John's bonus, envy? Knowledge of the wine cellar, and the phone system in the house.  Knowledge of Patsy's writing style.  Not knowing what was going on, therefore not travelling with John Andrew Ramsey that morning yet that is her alibi.

So where was she really?
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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #61 on: September 11, 2019, 11:23:52 PM »
This is a good summary of the history of the case
How It Really Happened: Who Killed JonBenet Ramsey? Part 1/2

https://youtu.be/dH283KvWXl4

Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHsu_IybsB4

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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #62 on: September 16, 2019, 08:34:54 PM »
This is a good summary of the history of the case
How It Really Happened: Who Killed JonBenet Ramsey? Part 1/2

https://youtu.be/dH283KvWXl4

Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHsu_IybsB4

Specific areas on those videos raised some of the issues explained in this new theory.
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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #63 on: September 17, 2019, 08:43:45 AM »
One point I had not made was that John Ramsey had a phone call from the kids and Linda Arndt  wrote in her notes that the kids were taking a private plane from Atlanta, yet later in their own alibi they said they took a commercial flight. 
I wish I had the actual reference for this now, but that is how I recall it.
It seems a massive discrepancy to me.
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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #64 on: September 18, 2019, 08:31:24 PM »
There are some amazing documentaries on the Jonbenet case  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgwPUHvA87U
"Overkill: The Unsolved Murder of JonBenét Ramsey" 

How come no one had been in the wine cellar before 6 hours after the phone call?  To me that is bollocks!  How come John was getting agitated just before the two kids from a previous marriage were about to arrive?

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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #65 on: September 20, 2019, 09:15:03 PM »
I'd like to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eC_EyIEOuI  "Perfect Murder Perfect Town - JonBenet and the City of Boulder (2000)" again but can't justify the time at the moment.
(In fact I've listened to the soundtrack 2 times recently).

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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #66 on: September 23, 2019, 08:23:05 PM »
I'd like to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eC_EyIEOuI  "Perfect Murder Perfect Town - JonBenet and the City of Boulder (2000)" again but can't justify the time at the moment.
I've listened to that soundtrack twice now and there were two things said that clash with the "New Theory".

1.  They say Chris Wolfe was eliminated from writing the ransom note, yet IMO the style of his handwriting that I saw was very similar to the note.

2. The kids from the previous marriage are eliminated  for some reason.

In the film the parents are waiting for a call from the kidnappers, and one of the kids from the previous marriage phones in and John says "I can't talk now I'll call you back".  I wonder if that happened?

Was that phone call traced.  Was it ever determined if it was possible for the kids to call John at that time while they were supposed to be flying?
 
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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #67 on: September 23, 2019, 10:14:09 PM »
Patsy explaining why the note was written in the style it was  https://youtu.be/6eC_EyIEOuI?t=5880

"it may have been written by a woman"

https://youtu.be/6eC_EyIEOuI?t=5960  John speak of who calls  but no actual time is given.

"I spoke to my older children"

It was after speaking to his older children he went down to the basement and possibly closed the window.  Why would he be altering the crime scene?
Did he really go on to say "I can't believe it is someone we know"?

(The spots are not exact but generally in the right place.)
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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #68 on: September 26, 2019, 02:00:25 AM »
Melinda Ramsey and John Andrew Ramsey were both cleared early in the investigation, but I plead that their alibis may have faults.
https://youtu.be/4hLKXJgfSA8
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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #69 on: September 26, 2019, 09:02:07 AM »
Linda Arndt was the detective who remained at the Ramsey residence up to the time John finds Jonbenet.

In her report which in part is on the internet https://juror13lw.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/linda-arndt-jan-8-1997-report.pdf.

Some of the names mentioned are redacted, but the bit that really interested me was the information on page 11. 

John Andrew Ramsey and Melinda ring to the house at a time not recorded in the notes, but they ring at separate times, which in some way suggests to me they weren't in the same place at the same time.

Linda Arndt records "John Andrew and Melinda had taken the family's private plane from Atlanta and had flown to Minneapolis."

Who told Linda Arndt that they had flown on the private plane?

This seems to be at odds with what I understand to be in their official alibi.  Didn't they say they flew commercially?
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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #70 on: September 30, 2019, 08:36:10 AM »
Comment "Det Arndt reported NO calls were received before 10:00 am and she noted that because the Ramseys didn't really seem to care or notice."
My Reply:
"Maybe they had called in fact, but not to claim any money."

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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #71 on: October 06, 2019, 10:04:26 AM »
Linda Arndt seemed to imply John Ramsey murdered Jonbenet.   OK it is a bit odd that John thought Jonbenet was still possibly alive when he brought her up from the basement.  That bit I don't believe at all. 

In my theory he knew she was dead in the wine cellar, and he brought her out of there before the other children from the first marriage arrived on the scene.

OK if my theory was right how did he get to know Jonbenet was in the wine cellar?
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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #72 on: October 09, 2019, 10:35:33 AM »
'"MSNBC's Time & Again looks at the JonBenét Ramsey Murder Mystery in this TV special from 1998. Featuring Jane Pauley and Roger O'Neil."  "JonBenét Ramsey Murder - Who Did It? (1998)" https://youtu.be/4hLKXJgfSA8


Covers a few of the news announcements.   It covers the bit about John Andrew's and Melinda's alibis.

Why would the father John Ramsey contaminate the evidence? https://youtu.be/4hLKXJgfSA8?t=285

Alibis =  https://youtu.be/4hLKXJgfSA8?t=350



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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #73 on: October 12, 2019, 09:02:56 PM »
https://youtu.be/etyyBGG1Ahs  "Connecting Point: John & Patsy Ramsey Part I"

In this interview John talks about his other two children.  There is such a pause before he mentions Melinda it is surprising, but John says she has 3 boys, 3 more grand kids for the Ramseys.
They keep on harping on about the loss of Beth, but virtually no mention of Melinda.
The bit about John Douglas is significant.  JD says it is someone who was angry or jealous of John Ramsey. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etyyBGG1Ahs&feature=youtu.be&t=639

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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #74 on: October 13, 2019, 01:27:43 AM »
It was the things that John Ramsey talks about here that made me wonder if the jealousy and hatred wasn't actually within the family.

Who gets the first Christmas, who gets the second Christmas?

Were the older children invited onto the Big Red Boat cruise too?  https://youtu.be/FEv-4BsEu5A?t=247  His Story - John Ramsey (J1652)

The kids:  https://youtu.be/FEv-4BsEu5A?t=1623
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