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Offline Robittybob1

Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #360 on: December 10, 2019, 02:06:00 AM »
Foreign Faction: Who Really Kidnapped JonBenet? (11 page of online version)
"During his examination of Patsy Ramsey’s note pad, Kithcart made a startling discovery. As he thumbed through the pad, looking at the handwriting, he noted what appeared to be the start of another ransom note. The words started out at the top of the page, as the addressing of a name would be written, “Mr. and Mrs. l”.

The “l” looked like the down stroke of the capital letter “R” that could signify that the writer was preparing to address the note to “Mr. and Mrs. Ramsey.” It was an important discovery because it appeared to him that the note pad identified as belonging to Patsy Ramsey may have been used by the kidnapper(s) to write the original ransom note. Moreover, it suggested that the ransom note may have been composed from materials within the home and not prepared before the kidnapper(s) had entered the residence."

So from that the practice note was still in Patsy's writing pad.
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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #361 on: December 10, 2019, 02:11:38 AM »
Foreign Faction: Who Really Kidnapped JonBenet? (11 page of online version)
"To investigators, it appeared that at least one, and perhaps two attempts had been made at starting a ransom note on pages 25 and 26 before the final product was completed on pages 27 through 29."

I have previously theorised that the page 25 was the note seen by John Fernie.

I am noting a series of discrepancies between what John Fernie has admitted to and what James Kolar is writing in his book.  (I have not noted these and to isolate them would have to be a further reading of the book.)
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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #362 on: December 10, 2019, 02:38:51 AM »
Reward offered Page 13:

"Next to a school picture showing the child beauty queen without makeup, the ad offers $100,000 “for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the murderer of JonBenét Ramsey.”

The ad says the 6-year-old girl was murdered Christmas night “…in her home by an unknown person or persons.”

It says the reward is offered by the JonBenét Ramsey Children’s Foundation and “the family urgently requests that if you have any knowledge which can assist in solving this crime, please contact (303) 443-3535 or Crime Stoppers at (303) 440-7867.”

JonBenét’s body was found in the basement of her parent’s Boulder home on the morning of December 26 after Patsy and John Ramsey reported finding a ransom note demanding $118,000 for the girl’s return.

—Boulder Camera

April 28, 1997"
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #363 on: December 10, 2019, 02:48:37 AM »
Page 13 online version:
"It was revealed that JonBenét had fallen asleep in the car when the family returned home from the dinner party, and that John Ramsey had carried her upstairs to her bedroom. Following close on, Patsy turned down her daughter’s bed and exchanged the child’s black party pants with long-john bottoms. The sequin-starred shirt that had been worn beneath a black vest remained on her daughter as she was tucked into bed for the night."

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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #364 on: December 10, 2019, 02:56:08 AM »
Page 13

"At some point, a quick check of Burke’s bedroom was made by her husband before police were called. He had come downstairs in his underwear, and had moved the note from the stair tread to the floor near the entrance of the kitchen. John was on his hands and knees reading the note when Patsy called 911 from a nearby kitchen wall phone."

IMO There is no way John Fernie could read a note on the floor through an exterior glass door when the note  was on the floor at that location.
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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #365 on: December 10, 2019, 06:38:01 AM »
Page 14  "The big surprise came for investigators when John revealed that he had been to the basement earlier in the morning, before being directed to check the house by Detective Arndt at approximately 1:00 p.m. that day.

John indicated that he had seen the broken Train Room window during his earlier trip. There was no glass around, and he presumed that it had not been repaired from his previous forced entry that summer. He stated that the window was open approximately 1/8” and he latched the window before returning upstairs.

When pressed for a time frame of this first undeclared visit, John thought that it had probably been before ten a.m. Investigators wondered why he would be leaving the room where a trap and trace and recorder had been established to accept the ransom call from kidnappers to explore the far reaches of the basement. To them, it seemed more likely that he had made this trip to the basement a little later in the morning when Detective Arndt first reported losing track of his whereabouts around 10:40 a.m.

John offered the theory that someone had come through the basement window and mentioned the Samsonite suitcase sitting below the window. He pointed out that someone could have gotten into the home without it, but that something would have been needed to step on in order to climb out of the window.†"

This earlier visit is not discussed often, and I agree with Kolar that it would have been nearer 11:00 AM.  Remember he told Stewart Long he found JBR at 11:00 AM. 


"John had commented shortly after the discovery of JonBenét’s body that whoever had committed the crime had to have been someone on the “inside” and cited these initial thoughts as one of the reasons housekeeper Linda Hoffmann-Pugh had been first named as a possible suspect. She and her husband were intimately familiar with the Ramsey home and the layout of the basement."

"Inside" would also include the older children Melinda and John Andrew.
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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #366 on: December 10, 2019, 07:45:17 AM »
Page 15.
"An expert was used to help construct the lighting conditions that would have been present when Fleet White and John Ramsey reported opening the door of the Wine Cellar. A white blanket was placed on the floor where JonBenét’s body had been found and sensitive photographic light meters were used in an attempt to duplicate the conditions of December 26th.

John Ramsey had stated that he observed the white blanket immediately upon opening the door. Investigators noted that the room was pitch-black when they re-created the same drill, and the blanket was unobservable to them.

Gosage noted in his reports that even with the interior lights on, he couldn’t see the blanket until he stepped into the room and had sufficiently cleared the short wall located to the left of the door."

That goes some way to confirming John Ramsey had found JonBenet earlier.
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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #367 on: December 10, 2019, 08:20:02 AM »
Page 16:

"Autopsy protocols in this type of investigation calls for the collection of fingernail scrapings that might help identify trace evidence that would link a suspect to the crime. In many instances, a struggling victim may have scratched a perpetrator during the assault, and skin cells or blood from the assailant is left beneath the fingernails.

Scrapings from the fingernails of JonBenét’s hands revealed miniscule samples of DNA that belonged to two different male subjects, and one unidentified female. The samples were too small to identify their biological origin, i.e. blood or skin cells, and investigators came to theorize that the unknown DNA samples had been transferred from contaminated fingernail clippers used in the post-mortem examinations of other bodies processed through the morgue prior to her homicide.

Investigators were able to obtain the DNA samples from eight of the autopsy examinations that preceded that of JonBenét.

These samples were analyzed, but none of these matched the unknown male and female samples collected from JonBenét’s fingernails."

2 males and 1 female, just as the ransom note seemed to imply!
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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #368 on: December 10, 2019, 10:43:17 AM »
Page 19:
"The paper also reported that John Ramsey’s older children, John Andrew and Melinda, were expected to testify on Thursday of that week. Though not in the home on the night of the murder, they could possibly answer questions about other relationships with the family."

I'd like to see their testimony!
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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #369 on: December 10, 2019, 05:07:58 PM »
Page 20:

"On June 3, 2000, the Ramseys posted a psychic’s composite sketch of a possible suspect in the murder of JonBenét on the website of the foundation they established in 1997. The sketch was based on the work of psychic Dorothy Allison, who had passed away in 1999. Allison was reported to have developed her vision of the perpetrator during a 1998 appearance on a network television program."

Articles:
https://www.cicap.org/n/articolo.php?id=101007

also "Psychic's rendering of JonBenet murder from 1998"  http://occhronicle.blogspot.com/2006/08/psychics-rendering-of-jonbenet-murder.html


This gets confusing in the end.  If the psychic nearly got it right,was John Mark Karr really involved.   Personally I'm not convinced he was eliminated from the inquiry thoroughly.


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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #370 on: December 10, 2019, 05:29:22 PM »
"Further Affiant Sayeth Not"  Page 21 Kolar's book.

"Further Affiant Sayeth Naught is a centuries-old statement that is still used on some legal documents such as pleadings as the final declaration prior to the affiant's signature. It means that the person testifying or having given a written statement has no more to say about the matter before the court."

Affirmation, affidavit, affirmative.
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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #371 on: December 10, 2019, 05:54:40 PM »
Page 22 Kolar begins working as "that lead role in the Ramsey investigation and run the team of investigators who worked for the Twentieth Judicial District Attorney’s office".

"It was eventually decided that the first thing to be cut was the responsibility of returning phone messages left on the tip line. We determined that one way to cut down on the amateur closet detectives was to deny them access to the time of a working criminal investigator. The message on the telephone tip line was changed to inform callers that if they believed they had a viable lead to present in the case that they reduce it to writing and submit it via the U.S. Mail or other carrier.

The second thing to go was the email. A generic email address was established on the D.A.’s website that was designed to provide the same message as that left on the telephone tip line. People who wished to provide information on the case were instructed to reduce it to writing and were informed that all leads would be evaluated on an individual basis."

So that is what they call me an amateur closet detective!
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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #372 on: December 10, 2019, 06:34:26 PM »
Page 23 Kolar's book:
"Trujillo advised me that lab technicians had identified eight different types of fibers on the sticky side of the duct tape used to cover JonBenét’s mouth. They included red acrylic, gray acrylic, and red polyester fibers that were subsequently determined by laboratory examination to be microscopically and chemically consistent to each other, as well as to fibers taken from Patsy Ramsey’s Essentials jacket."

Where had the duct tape roll been before?


Page 24:
"But there were still other trace fibers that had yet to be accounted for. Brown cotton fibers had been found on four items closely associated with the body of JonBenét and implements used in her murder. Lab technicians thought the fibers similar to a pair of cotton work gloves.

Had the gloves gone the way of the cord, duct tape, practice notes, and stun gun when the perpetrator left the home that night?"
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Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #373 on: December 10, 2019, 07:34:20 PM »
Page 25 Kolar's book  https://100vampirenovels.net/pdf-novels/foreign-faction-who-really-kidnapped-jonbenet-by-kolar-a-james-free/25-page:

"Within a week, a CD disk prepared by BPD Criminalist Shelly Hisey arrived at my office, and it contained a series of Power Point slides that depicted a graphic overlay of the stun gun to the injuries on JonBenét’s back. I pulled up the file on my computer and hit the play button.

I must have watched the presentation several times before I leaned back into my chair and felt a chill crawl down my back.

It was strikingly clear that the electronic leads of the Taser purported to have been used by an intruder in this murder did not align with JonBenét’s injuries.

Lou Smit’s representation that these marks were a “close match” were exactly that, “close”, but not the
exact match you would expect to see from the direct physical contact that would have been required in these circumstances."


I think we can just about discount the use of a stun gun.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: New Theory accounting for the death of Jonbenet.
« Reply #374 on: December 10, 2019, 10:21:34 PM »
I agree with Kolar here, on page 28:

"But it should be noted that the first strike involved in a blow to the head doesn’t always break the skin of the scalp and cause immediate external bleeding.

JonBenét’s injury gave the appearance of one massive strike to the top right side of her skull. There did not appear to be any follow-up blow, and the severity of her injuries could not be interpreted from a viewing of the external autopsy photographs alone. The severity of the injury to her skull was not realized until after
her scalp had been redacted to inspect the internal aspects of her head. It only then became apparent that she had suffered a crushing blow to her skull.

Internal bleeding normally does not occur once the heart stops beating. According to the forensic examiners who studied the evidence, the presence of such bleeding revealed that JonBenét had lived for some period of time after receiving the blow to her head."
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