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Offline Erngath

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #150 on: April 03, 2019, 10:07:25 PM »
Si now we have

Look a bit iffy
Have smiled on camera
Alerts.. No evidential reliability
Changed stories about checking the chalet

Such overwhelming evidence of guilt.!
I hope both Investigations are aware of this evidence.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #151 on: April 03, 2019, 10:07:47 PM »
For me one of the most telling questions I've ever heard came from Peter Hyatt.
I ask the viewer who are they concerned about? Are they concerned about Madeleine or are they concerned about themselves.
Examples of their ongoing concern for Madeleine please?

KM: “We’re not the ones that has done something wrong here. It’s the person who’s gone into that apartment and taken a little girl away from her family.”

Distancing language.
"I bet the parents dunnit" (Me)

Offline Cheeky Monkey

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #152 on: April 03, 2019, 10:08:04 PM »
Save your sermonising for someone who needs it.
I don't!
Save your baseless accussations for someone who deserves them.
Your on the permanent rubber ear list... Here endith the lesson. 
Gerry McCann: "If you think about the millions and millions of British families who go to the Mediterranean each year, really the chances of this happening are in the order of 100 million to one."

Offline Erngath

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #153 on: April 03, 2019, 10:10:11 PM »
Save your baseless accussations for someone who deserves them.
Your on the permanent rubber ear list... Here endith the lesson.

 &^&*%
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Erngath

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #154 on: April 03, 2019, 10:11:15 PM »
KM: “We’re not the ones that has done something wrong here. It’s the person who’s gone into that apartment and taken a little girl away from her family.”

Distancing language.

Oh yes, of course !
Body language and speech analysis. @)(++(*
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Cheeky Monkey

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #155 on: April 03, 2019, 10:11:59 PM »
Why are you so angry about the police investigation into a little girl’s disappearance?
I'm not so angry about the police investigation. I was angry about being accused of posting hate by people who clearly haven't got a clue what hatred is. That won't happen again, I'm learning. They just aren't worth the bother IMHO.
Gerry McCann: "If you think about the millions and millions of British families who go to the Mediterranean each year, really the chances of this happening are in the order of 100 million to one."

Offline Erngath

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #156 on: April 03, 2019, 10:13:03 PM »
Don’t forget Kate’s earrings.

The drivel that has been touted as evidence.
I'd forgotten that one.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #157 on: April 03, 2019, 10:15:11 PM »
I'm not so angry about the police investigation. I was angry about being accused of posting hate by people who clearly haven't got a clue what hatred is. That won't happen again, I'm learning. They just aren't worth the bother IMHO.
You presume to know everyone else’s personal experience of hatred in their lives do you?
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline Cheeky Monkey

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #158 on: April 03, 2019, 10:35:03 PM »
You presume to know everyone else’s personal experience of hatred in their lives do you?
I find it difficult to believe personally that anyone who has experienced real hatred could accuse me of posting hatred because I said in slightly different terms that I didn't give a toss about the McCanns until they reopened the investigation. That's not hatred in anyone's book unless their deluded imo. That is the truth, it was so saturated in the papers I restricted myself to reading the headlines and listening briefly to the news bulletins.  I even believed they had been cleared until 2014.  I can cite examples of innocent young men having their throats slit and murdered merely for wearing the wrong colours on Old Firm day. That's hatred, something anyone who knows me, knows I'm not capable of.
But I've learnt my lesson, know those who to avoid at all costs and it's time to put it firmly behind me.
That's concludes all I have to say on that subject.
Gerry McCann: "If you think about the millions and millions of British families who go to the Mediterranean each year, really the chances of this happening are in the order of 100 million to one."

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #159 on: April 03, 2019, 10:39:47 PM »
I find it difficult to believe personally that anyone who has experienced real hatred could accuse me of posting hatred because I said in slightly different terms that I didn't give a toss about the McCanns until they reopened the investigation. That's not hatred in anyone's book unless their deluded imo. That is the truth, it was so saturated in the papers I restricted myself to reading the headlines and listening briefly to the news bulletins.  I even believed they had been cleared until 2014.  I can cite examples of innocent young men having their throats slit and murdered merely for wearing the wrong colours on Old Firm day. That's hatred, something anyone who knows me, knows I'm not capable of.
But I've learnt my lesson, know those who to avoid at all costs and it's time to put it firmly behind me.
That's concludes all I have to say on that subject.
I wouldn’t call that hate, just common or garden contempt.  Hope you agree  that’s a more accurate reflection of your feelings vis-a-vis the McCanns
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline Cheeky Monkey

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #160 on: April 03, 2019, 10:47:45 PM »
I wouldn’t call that hate, just common or garden contempt.  Hope you agree  that’s a more accurate reflection of your feelings vis-a-vis the McCanns
I would certainly agree that's a more accurate reflection. There are even a couple of interviews were I sensed a weak and broken women in Kate were I feel some empathy for her in a weird way when I see them. There was a bit in the Piers Morgan interview, but there is another I can't remember which one that leaves me with the same sense. I can't say that about Gerry and I'll leave it at that. I'm perfectly capable of not liking someone without resorting to hating anyone. 
Hate is for losers imo
Gerry McCann: "If you think about the millions and millions of British families who go to the Mediterranean each year, really the chances of this happening are in the order of 100 million to one."

Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #161 on: April 03, 2019, 10:50:18 PM »
Anger is one of the most productive emotions known to man if channeled in the correct manner and is responsible for so much positive change imo. I've no boat to float, and on the subject of hatred, I suspect there are those on here who do not have a clue what real hatred is. There was a blood bath in Glasgow on Sunday that you may have heard about because of the hatred generated by the Old Firm. Two men are fighting for their life and scores more wounded because of hatred. I have lived with that hatred and the marching season for more years than I care to remember, so I know what hate is. If you and your friends want to go around accusing folk who disagree with you of posting hatred, I'd suggest you learn what hatred actually is first. I may have mistakenly used a wrong term because I thought it was allowed after i read it in a post addressed to me last week,, but to turn that into an accusation of me of posting hatred says far more about you and your friend than it does about me imo.
There's a lesson to be learned here and you can be sure I've learnt it. This is a case of once bite, twice shy.

I knew that there were football teams in Glasgow which represented two different religions, but until I joined this forum I didn't know that sectarian hatred was rife there. I saw it in England as a child, but that was 60 years ago. It died out as relifgion lost it's importance and influence.

I was amazed to learn that some people suspected that those doubting the McCanns really just hated them because of their religion. As a non-religious person that idea had never crossed my mind. Siddenly the vitriol aimed at those who didn't accept the McCann's innocence made a bit more sense.
Accept nothing
Believe no-one
Confirm everything

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #162 on: April 03, 2019, 10:53:22 PM »
Going jogging

Deleting call records within hours of their daughter's disappearance and not informing the police when handing over their mobiles.

27 April then nothing until 4 May  @)(++(* Gerry had no call records until 4 May. Not functioning  *%87





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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Cheeky Monkey

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #163 on: April 03, 2019, 11:00:18 PM »
I knew that there were football teams in Glasgow which represented two different religions, but until I joined this forum I didn't know that sectarian hatred was rife there. I saw it in England as a child, but that was 60 years ago. It died out as relifgion lost it's importance and influence.

I was amazed to learn that some people suspected that those doubting the McCanns really just hated them because of their religion. As a non-religious person that idea had never crossed my mind. Siddenly the vitriol aimed at those who didn't accept the McCann's innocence made a bit more sense.
That's what happens when your the doctor for Celtic, it would have been the exact same if he had worked for Rangers. Just the other side would have thrown the vitriol. The Old Firm can teach us all we need to know about hatred. On match day, it's absolutely poisonous.
I head for the hills on Old Firm day, it can be so bad.
Gerry McCann: "If you think about the millions and millions of British families who go to the Mediterranean each year, really the chances of this happening are in the order of 100 million to one."

Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #164 on: April 03, 2019, 11:04:47 PM »
I would certainly agree that's a more accurate reflection. There are even a couple of interviews were I sensed a weak and broken women in Kate were I feel some empathy for her in a weird way when I see them. There was a bit in the Piers Morgan interview, but there is another I can't remember which one that leaves me with the same sense. I can't say that about Gerry and I'll leave it at that. I'm perfectly capable of not liking someone without resorting to hating anyone. 
Hate is for losers imo

Whether the McCanns were involved or not the whole affair was bound to be devastating.
Accept nothing
Believe no-one
Confirm everything