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Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #165 on: April 03, 2019, 11:09:41 PM »
That's what happens when your the doctor for Celtic, it would have been the exact same if he had worked for Rangers. Just the other side would have thrown the vitriol. The Old Firm can teach us all we need to know about hatred. On match day, it's absolutely poisonous.
I head for the hills on Old Firm day, it can be so bad.

Who was the doctor for Celtic?
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Offline Cheeky Monkey

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #166 on: April 03, 2019, 11:17:10 PM »
Who was the doctor for Celtic?
I'm pretty sure Gerry worked as their physio during the nineties.

Madeleine, from Rothley, Leicestershire, disappeared from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, in the Algarve. Her father, Gerry, had worked for Celtic before moving to England.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6649319.stm
« Last Edit: April 03, 2019, 11:22:47 PM by Cheeky Monkey »
Gerry McCann: "If you think about the millions and millions of British families who go to the Mediterranean each year, really the chances of this happening are in the order of 100 million to one."

Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #167 on: April 03, 2019, 11:36:11 PM »
I'm pretty sure Gerry worked as their physio during the nineties.

Madeleine, from Rothley, Leicestershire, disappeared from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, in the Algarve. Her father, Gerry, had worked for Celtic before moving to England.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6649319.stm

I asked because I looked at it a while back and couldn't find a clear answer for some reason. Goodnight, CM,
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Offline Cheeky Monkey

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #168 on: April 03, 2019, 11:39:33 PM »
KM: “We’re not the ones that has done something wrong here. It’s the person who’s gone into that apartment and taken a little girl away from her family.”

Distancing language.
GM; "We don't know whose taken her and what HER motive is"

An indication that Gerry knows a woman has taken her.
Gerry McCann: "If you think about the millions and millions of British families who go to the Mediterranean each year, really the chances of this happening are in the order of 100 million to one."

Offline Cheeky Monkey

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #169 on: April 03, 2019, 11:41:42 PM »
I asked because I looked at it a while back and couldn't find a clear answer for some reason. Goodnight, CM,
Always happy to help if I can. Goodnight.
Gerry McCann: "If you think about the millions and millions of British families who go to the Mediterranean each year, really the chances of this happening are in the order of 100 million to one."

Offline Cheeky Monkey

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #170 on: April 04, 2019, 12:25:14 AM »
Cite for what Mr Smith and his wife believe, thank you.
Very bottom of the page.
"I would be 60-80% sure that it was Gerard McCann that I met that night carrying a child. I am basing that on his mannerism in the way he carried the child off the plane. After seeing the BBC news at 10 PM, footage on the 9th September 2007 I contacted Leicestershire police with this information. During that time I spoke to all my family members who were with me on the night of 3rd May 2007 about this and the only one who felt the same way as me WAS MY WIFE."
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm
Gerry McCann: "If you think about the millions and millions of British families who go to the Mediterranean each year, really the chances of this happening are in the order of 100 million to one."

Offline Brietta

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« Reply #171 on: April 04, 2019, 01:22:29 AM »
Very bottom of the page.
"I would be 60-80% sure that it was Gerard McCann that I met that night carrying a child. I am basing that on his mannerism in the way he carried the child off the plane. After seeing the BBC news at 10 PM, footage on the 9th September 2007 I contacted Leicestershire police with this information. During that time I spoke to all my family members who were with me on the night of 3rd May 2007 about this and the only one who felt the same way as me WAS MY WIFE."
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm

I haven't found a direct quote from Martin Smith.

ST:

Smith has since stressed that he does not believe the man he saw was Gerry, and Scotland Yard do not consider this a possibility. Last week the McCanns were told officially by the Portuguese authorities that they are not suspects.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2794.0


However, there is this from Mary Smith (MoS):
This weekend, Mr Smith's wife Mary told the Mail on Sunday her husband had no regrets about coming forward.

He [Martin] doesn't want to talk, said Mrs Smith. He said what he had to say. I was with him [that night]. We saw a man carrying a child and that's all we know. We told them all that and that's it.

''The man he saw had the same stature as Gerry McCann. We felt we had to help. We're happy we did. We reported exactly what we saw.

"We only did what we thought was right for a missing girl and our hearts are breaking for her parents, as it would be if it were one of ours.

''I feel very much for them [the McCanns]. I have six grandchildren of my own and six children of my own.

"The poor McCann family must be heartbroken.''

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id162.html
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7062.msg310346#msg310346

There is also a tweet exchange between Xklamation and Jason Farrell from Sky:

Joana Morais
‏@JoanaAMorais
@JasonFarrellSky «I would be 60-80% sure that it was Gerald McCann that I met that night carrying a child» Mr.Smith http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm

Jason Farrell ‏@JasonFarrellSky 14 Oct 2013
@xklamation it was Peter Smith who I spoke to, who was in the group. That wasn't his take on it.
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http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7062.msg310346#msg310346
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #172 on: April 04, 2019, 07:21:28 AM »
There’s that word hatred again. Have you apologists really got so little imagination?
Why don’t you hate the McCanns?  According to you they abandoned their kids, let one of them die, chucked her body in a bin, lied about it, decided to go on a publicity tour to make themselves famous,  raked in millions, made the lives of many a misery especially the hard-working cop Amaral who was only doing his job, they live in a horrible house, speak with contemptible accents, have appallng dress sense, ingratiate themselves with the genuine parents of missing kids,  have supporters who cause dear old ladies to commit suicide, I mean are you some sort of saint for not hating them??!
« Last Edit: April 04, 2019, 07:24:13 AM by Vertigo Swirl »
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #173 on: April 04, 2019, 07:53:04 AM »
Why don’t you hate the McCanns?  According to you they abandoned their kids, let one of them die, chucked her body in a bin, lied about it, decided to go on a publicity tour to make themselves famous,  raked in millions, made the lives of many a misery especially the hard-working cop Amaral who was only doing his job, they live in a horrible house, speak with contemptible accents, have appallng dress sense, ingratiate themselves with the genuine parents of missing kids,  have supporters who cause dear old ladies to commit suicide, I mean are you some sort of saint for not hating them??!

Are you sure those are not your words? Accents and dress sense?  8)-)))
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #174 on: April 04, 2019, 07:56:02 AM »
I haven't found a direct quote from Martin Smith.

ST:

Smith has since stressed that he does not believe the man he saw was Gerry, and Scotland Yard do not consider this a possibility. Last week the McCanns were told officially by the Portuguese authorities that they are not suspects.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2794.0


However, there is this from Mary Smith (MoS):
This weekend, Mr Smith's wife Mary told the Mail on Sunday her husband had no regrets about coming forward.

He [Martin] doesn't want to talk, said Mrs Smith. He said what he had to say. I was with him [that night]. We saw a man carrying a child and that's all we know. We told them all that and that's it.

''The man he saw had the same stature as Gerry McCann. We felt we had to help. We're happy we did. We reported exactly what we saw.

"We only did what we thought was right for a missing girl and our hearts are breaking for her parents, as it would be if it were one of ours.

''I feel very much for them [the McCanns]. I have six grandchildren of my own and six children of my own.

"The poor McCann family must be heartbroken.''

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id162.html
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7062.msg310346#msg310346

There is also a tweet exchange between Xklamation and Jason Farrell from Sky:

Joana Morais
‏@JoanaAMorais
@JasonFarrellSky «I would be 60-80% sure that it was Gerald McCann that I met that night carrying a child» Mr.Smith http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm

Jason Farrell ‏@JasonFarrellSky 14 Oct 2013
@xklamation it was Peter Smith who I spoke to, who was in the group. That wasn't his take on it.
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http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7062.msg310346#msg310346

The BBC said Smith changed his mind didn't they? Then they had to change their programme because it wasn't true.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #175 on: April 04, 2019, 07:59:46 AM »
Are you sure those are not your words? Accents and dress sense?  8)-)))
Are you not aware that Kate’s accent and clothes are mocked mercilessly?  No doubt Saint Faithlilly will deny it but I have been ineracting with her for long enough to know that she finds both beneath contempt.   Funny those were the only two aspects in my post you questioned though... @)(++(*
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Offline Davel

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« Reply #176 on: April 04, 2019, 08:05:54 AM »
Its ironic...another characteristic of sceptics...they object to  what other posters say about them but continue by making endless vile comments towards the mccanns
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #177 on: April 04, 2019, 08:16:03 AM »
Are you not aware that Kate’s accent and clothes are mocked mercilessly?  No doubt Saint Faithlilly will deny it but I have been ineracting with her for long enough to know that she finds both beneath contempt.   Funny those were the only two aspects in my post you questioned though... @)(++(*

I'd never seen them mentioned on here or anywhere else, that's why. Do you have a cite?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #178 on: April 04, 2019, 08:19:03 AM »
I'd never seen them mentioned on here or anywhere else, that's why. Do you have a cite?
Not without upsetting the rules of the forum.  Tell you what to make you happy I will concede that Faithlilly has never once on this forum (to the best of my knowledge and brcause I can’t be bothered to go through all her thousands of barbed posts) criticised Kate’s accent or clothes.  The rest stands though.
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #179 on: April 04, 2019, 09:25:17 AM »
Not without upsetting the rules of the forum.  Tell you what to make you happy I will concede that Faithlilly has never once on this forum (to the best of my knowledge and brcause I can’t be bothered to go through all her thousands of barbed posts) criticised Kate’s accent or clothes.  The rest stands though.

Just another example of your fondness for hyperbole then.
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