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Offline Davel

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #285 on: April 04, 2019, 09:13:08 PM »
"I read carefully the WRITTEN document/questionnaire provided by David Payne."
but was not able to extricate any other information besides what is already known. He declares that he saw Madeleine, for the last time, at 17H00 on 3/5/07 in the McCann apartment. Also present there were Kate AND GERRY. He did not indicate the motive for being there or what he was doing. He also cannot indicate how long he stayed.

If you can't accept the truth, who am I to question you.

So you have confirmed it's hearsay
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Offline Erngath

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #286 on: April 04, 2019, 09:13:20 PM »
I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. Why not just accept that opinions differ?

I have no doubt they do.
I'm just interested in why sceptics cling to their beliefs in spite of a lengthy police investigation by two police forces who will surely have noted all the obvious ( to sceptics) alarming doubts.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Cheeky Monkey

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #287 on: April 04, 2019, 09:13:30 PM »
Completely different would be different location, different day, different circumstances.  What were the main points of difference?  Do you think David Payne is involved then?
I know he gave two completely different version of the last time he claims he seen the little angel alive.
Do you think he done that because his best friend's daughter had been abducted?
Gerry McCann: "If you think about the millions and millions of British families who go to the Mediterranean each year, really the chances of this happening are in the order of 100 million to one."

Offline Erngath

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #288 on: April 04, 2019, 09:14:31 PM »
You’d have to ask them that but what is clear is that when the fund knew that it was being defrauded it did nothing. Why do you think that was ?

I've no idea.
Perhaps you can enlighten me.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #289 on: April 04, 2019, 09:17:32 PM »
I know he gave two completely different version of the last time he claims he seen the little angel alive.
Do you think he done that because his best friend's daughter had been abducted?
Could you please describe the main points of complete difference?  I asked you if you thought he was involved, you did not give me an answer.
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline Cheeky Monkey

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #290 on: April 04, 2019, 09:22:16 PM »
Could you please describe the main points of complete difference?  I asked you if you thought he was involved, you did not give me an answer.
I did give you an answer, you might not have liked it but we can't get everything we want. Read my posts, the main point is in there. The name is Cheeky Monkey, not John Parrot.
Gerry McCann: "If you think about the millions and millions of British families who go to the Mediterranean each year, really the chances of this happening are in the order of 100 million to one."

Offline Erngath

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #291 on: April 04, 2019, 09:24:14 PM »
Here's the best reason you'll ever get for why in spite of the ongoing investigation into Madeleine's disappearance by both NSY and the current ongoing investigation by the Portuguese police that people believe Madeleine's parents are guilty. It is because they are both doing a terrible job of proving anyone other than the last people to see the missing child alive are guilty.

Now the McCanns have to prove to " that people"  by doing other than a "terrible job"  that they are not guilty of what?
However let's just ignore that two lengthy investigations by two police forces have not yet accused them of anything.

So much for our justice system.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline jassi

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #292 on: April 04, 2019, 09:27:36 PM »
Now the McCanns have to prove to " that people"  by doing other than a "terrible job"  that they are not guilty of what?
However let's just ignore that two lengthy investigations by two police forces have not yet accused them of anything.

So much for our justice system.

As they haven't produced anything conclusive, we might just as well.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -   Into year 13 and still no solution.

Offline Erngath

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #293 on: April 04, 2019, 09:28:49 PM »
As they haven't produced anything conclusive, we might just as well.

Just as well do what?
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline jassi

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #294 on: April 04, 2019, 09:31:05 PM »
Just as well do what?
might as well ignore the investigations.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -   Into year 13 and still no solution.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #295 on: April 04, 2019, 09:32:44 PM »
It's a fact the statements may not be accurate

In my honest opinion that recurring mantra is purely an attempt to cast doubt on inexplicable anomalies. I rhink there's plenty to be found using other sources.
Accept nothing
Believe no-one
Confirm everything

Offline Erngath

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #296 on: April 04, 2019, 09:36:04 PM »
might as well ignore the investigations.

Very true, exactly what sceptics are doing.!!
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #297 on: April 04, 2019, 09:36:23 PM »
I did give you an answer, you might not have liked it but we can't get everything we want. Read my posts, the main point is in there. The name is Cheeky Monkey, not John Parrot.
You didn’t say what was “completely different” about David Payne’s statements, do you now refuse to say?
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline Erngath

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #298 on: April 04, 2019, 09:39:41 PM »
In my honest opinion that recurring mantra is purely an attempt to cast doubt on inexplicable anomalies. I rhink there's plenty to be found using other sources.

Do you believe that both investigating police forces have ignored these " inexplicable anomalies" ?
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline jassi

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #299 on: April 04, 2019, 09:40:20 PM »
Very true, exactly what sceptics are doing.!!

When OG or PJ come forth with anything new and constructive will be the time to pay attention - if they ever do.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -   Into year 13 and still no solution.