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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #855 on: April 11, 2019, 09:42:12 PM »
I'll be honest, I didn't see any of this material contemporaneously really.
It's only after stumbling upon the rise of the Youtube sensationalist and pretend sleuths that I started digging. I've changed my point of view about 30 times. So when I chanced upon this I just thought.....'yeh, bit cringy that'.
Fair enough.
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #856 on: April 11, 2019, 10:13:44 PM »
I may be wrong here but I don’t believe Robbitybob is a Muslim worshipper.
I would rate your post as crass, and that is being generous.

Christchurch has suffered in recent times from a major earthquake and a massive shooting.

Although neither American or Australian, we have one of both under our roof at the moment.

 &%%6  And I thought I had no empathy.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #857 on: April 11, 2019, 10:22:44 PM »
"Senior Portuguese police are sitting in on the interviews but are not allowed to question anyone themselves. Over the next three days, they will interview all of the so-called Tapas Seven." 
So these events happened at the time of the rogatory interviews.

That article shows there were a lot of unresolved issues to be defined before the Tapas 9 would agree to a revisit to Portugal.  I don't think these issues were ever resolved.

Rebelo did his best but it was never going to happen imo.
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Offline Erngath

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #858 on: April 11, 2019, 10:37:34 PM »
I have to say you puzzle me. I don't care what you believe or assume about the McCanns, their friends or the police.You can think what you like.

On the other hand you seem interested in learning and understanding why other people think what they think. When they tell you, however, you just reject their views out of hand. 

I get the impression that you're convinced that you're right and that anyone who doesn't agree with you is wrong. I find that somewhat arrogant to be honest.

Goodness me!
What a personal and inappropriate response!
I believe I did ask you what the McCanns hoped to achieve from their request to have the investigation reopened ?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #859 on: April 11, 2019, 10:43:17 PM »
I would rate your post as crass, and that is being generous.

Christchurch has suffered in recent times from a major earthquake and a massive shooting.

Although neither American or Australian, we have one of both under our roof at the moment.

 &%%6  And I thought I had no empathy.
As the gunman struck some weeks ago, targeting Muslim worshippers at a mosque, your concern for Robbity’s safety seemed somewhat unecessary, though well meant I’m sure.   I have visited NZ and have many relatives there but did not feel the need to enquire after their safety after the event - they would have thought me mad to do so in the circumstances.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #860 on: April 12, 2019, 12:48:03 AM »
July 2015

The remaining line of inquiry is centred around a letter asking for assistance sent from UK investigators to the Portuguese Public Prosecution Service in July 2015.

The statement from the Attorney General's office said confirmed they had received the letter in July, and said the request will be sent to the Criminal Investigation Police (PJ) for them to look in to.

The spokeswoman would not comment on the nature of the request.

October 2015

Madeleine McCann case: Police team cut to four

April 2016

Madeleine McCann case: One line of inquiry remains

Police are following one remaining line of inquiry into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, Scotland Yard boss Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe has said.

February 2017

In the 76-page ruling on the case – made public – they also said the archiving in 2008 of the criminal case into Madeline’s ­disappearance does not prove the McCanns are innocent.

They wrote: “It should not be said that the appellants were cleared via the ruling announcing the archiving of the criminal case.”
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #861 on: April 12, 2019, 09:25:59 PM »
July 2015

The remaining line of inquiry is centred around a letter asking for assistance sent from UK investigators to the Portuguese Public Prosecution Service in July 2015.

The statement from the Attorney General's office said confirmed they had received the letter in July, and said the request will be sent to the Criminal Investigation Police (PJ) for them to look in to.

The spokeswoman would not comment on the nature of the request.

October 2015

Madeleine McCann case: Police team cut to four

April 2016

Madeleine McCann case: One line of inquiry remains

Police are following one remaining line of inquiry into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, Scotland Yard boss Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe has said.

February 2017

In the 76-page ruling on the case – made public – they also said the archiving in 2008 of the criminal case into Madeline’s ­disappearance does not prove the McCanns are innocent.

They wrote: “It should not be said that the appellants were cleared via the ruling announcing the archiving of the criminal case.”

Both Police forces have said the McCanns are not suspects.

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Offline Erngath

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #862 on: April 12, 2019, 09:43:33 PM »
Both Police forces have said the McCanns are not suspects.

(Davel isn't here, just filling in for him)

Tis true.
They are not!!
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Offline Faithlilly

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #863 on: April 12, 2019, 10:14:07 PM »
Tis true.
They are not!!

But then because of judicial secrecy we wouldn’t know if they were.
'She ( Kate) did, she brought it up and that she, I mean, this is awful in retrospect as well, she asked what my opinion was on, erm, tut, on whether they were okay leaving the, the doors unlocked, because she was saying 'Is it better that if Madeleine wakes up she can get out and find us or', erm, 'or locking it and, you know, finding that we're not there and the door's locked if she woke up', because Madeleine had woken up, what I thought was the night before. Erm, tut, and it was in that context really, just asking, you know, what I thought. So it was obviously something that was on her mind a bit, huh'.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #864 on: April 12, 2019, 10:47:42 PM »
But then because of judicial secrecy we wouldn’t know if they were.
Judicial secrecy didn’t stop us knowing about the last lot of suspects, why would it be any different with the McCanns?
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Offline kizzy

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #865 on: April 13, 2019, 08:56:09 AM »
  ... and it is sentiments like that which epitomise sceptic opinion. 
That has to be fuelled from somewhere and I suggest it is the beliefs spouted unashamedly and uncritically on social media.


Could you expand- on the above post please B

Exactly what you are suggesting.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #866 on: April 13, 2019, 09:12:43 AM »
Judicial secrecy didn’t stop us knowing about the last lot of suspects, why would it be any different with the McCanns?

Why would the McCanns not be suspects, while burglar bill & Bobby Murat were???

Evidence, I'd imagine. There must be some definite evidence which rules the McCanns out.

I wonder what it is.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #867 on: April 13, 2019, 09:28:14 AM »

Could you expand- on the above post please B

Exactly what you are suggesting.

Please read back over your previous posts and give some thought to the thread title 'Sceptics beliefs?' in relation to them before deflecting.

I often find it useful to look in before I look out when wondering.  I can recommend it to you particularly as the thread is for discussion of opinions such as those expressed in your posts.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #868 on: April 13, 2019, 09:55:10 AM »
Goodness me!
What a personal and inappropriate response!
I believe I did ask you what the McCanns hoped to achieve from their request to have the investigation reopened ?

Oh dear. I didn't intend to be personal or inappropriate. Please explain why you think that I was.
I can't tell you what the McCanns hoped to achieve because all I have to go on is what they said. I could, like some, believe eerything they say, but my scepticism makes that difficult for me. By definition sceptics don't believe, you see, they doubt.
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Offline kizzy

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #869 on: April 13, 2019, 10:00:21 AM »
Please read back over your previous posts and give some thought to the thread title 'Sceptics beliefs?' in relation to them before deflecting.

I often find it useful to look in before I look out when wondering.  I can recommend it to you particularly as the thread is for discussion of opinions such as those expressed in your posts.

Unfortunately still can't grasp - what your point is B
POSTS ARE -  MY OWN OPINION