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Offline Eleanor

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #870 on: April 13, 2019, 10:03:18 AM »
Oh dear. I didn't intend to be personal or inappropriate. Please explain why you think that I was.
I can't tell you what the McCanns hoped to achieve because all I have to go on is what they said. I could, like some, believe eerything they say, but my scepticism makes that difficult for me. By definition sceptics don't believe, you see, they doubt.

Thank God I was born an optimist.  But just the luck of the draw.

Offline Brietta

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #871 on: April 13, 2019, 10:15:28 AM »
Oh dear. I didn't intend to be personal or inappropriate. Please explain why you think that I was.
I can't tell you what the McCanns hoped to achieve because all I have to go on is what they said. I could, like some, believe eerything they say, but my scepticism makes that difficult for me. By definition sceptics don't believe, you see, they doubt.

Nothing wrong with 'doubting' that I can see.

That 'doubting' appears to become entrenched as part of 'Sceptics beliefs?' maintained over a twelve year period and is applicable to everything McCann and anyone associated with them however peripherally.

No doubts about Madeleine author Paulo Pereira Cristovao and no fora set up to excoriate him?  Nothing about another arguido the supreme court judges' ruling put in exactly the same basket as the McCanns?

What luxury it must be, being a selective 'doubter' and a selective 'sceptic'.
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #872 on: April 13, 2019, 10:16:38 AM »
Why would the McCanns not be suspects, while burglar bill & Bobby Murat were???

Evidence, I'd imagine. There must be some definite evidence which rules the McCanns out.

I wonder what it is.

You have to believe that the police know more than you do! They haven't suggested there's evidence which rules the McCanns out, they've said there's no evidence which suggests their involvement. Anyone who thinks there is is making things up because they're nasty trolls. Any sensible person knows that the police know the truth, tell the truth and don't make mistakes. Have faith!
Accept nothing
Believe no-one
Confirm everything

Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #873 on: April 13, 2019, 10:22:45 AM »
Thank God I was born an optimist.  But just the luck of the draw.

I'm an optimist too.
Accept nothing
Believe no-one
Confirm everything

Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #874 on: April 13, 2019, 10:43:19 AM »
Nothing wrong with 'doubting' that I can see.

That 'doubting' appears to become entrenched as part of 'Sceptics beliefs?' maintained over a twelve year period and is applicable to everything McCann and anyone associated with them however peripherally.

No doubts about Madeleine author Paulo Pereira Cristovao and no fora set up to excoriate him?  Nothing about another arguido the supreme court judges' ruling put in exactly the same basket as the McCanns?

What luxury it must be, being a selective 'doubter' and a selective 'sceptic'.
I believe nothing and no-one. Some people and things I don't believe, which isn't the same at all.
There's nothing selective about my scepticism I can assure you. I apply A B C  to everyone and everything. A lack of comment shouldn't be interpreted as approval or belief; it's more likely to signify lack of interest. 
Accept nothing
Believe no-one
Confirm everything

Offline Brietta

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #875 on: April 13, 2019, 11:10:51 AM »
You have to believe that the police know more than you do! They haven't suggested there's evidence which rules the McCanns out, they've said there's no evidence which suggests their involvement. Anyone who thinks there is is making things up because they're nasty trolls. Any sensible person knows that the police know the truth, tell the truth and don't make mistakes. Have faith!

I think that exactly sums up the sceptics belief ... not so much in the police whose final report laid it on the line ... but in Amaral's beliefs which he formulated in 2007 and which remain the cornerstone for sceptics.
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline Brietta

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #876 on: April 13, 2019, 11:16:23 AM »
I believe nothing and no-one. Some people and things I don't believe, which isn't the same at all.
There's nothing selective about my scepticism I can assure you. I apply A B C  to everyone and everything. A lack of comment shouldn't be interpreted as approval or belief; it's more likely to signify lack of interest.

So you keep insisting ... while missing that what is posted is in danger of leading the reader to a different conclusion.
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline Eleanor

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #877 on: April 13, 2019, 11:18:13 AM »
I'm an optimist too.

But only for your own sake.  My optimism applies to everything I do and think.

Offline kizzy

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #878 on: April 13, 2019, 11:18:50 AM »
I think that exactly sums up the sceptics belief ... not so much in the police whose final report laid it on the line ... but in Amaral's beliefs which he formulated in 2007 and which remain the cornerstone for sceptics.

That is just your opinion - I think more common sense for obvious reasons.
POSTS ARE -  MY OWN OPINION

Offline Brietta

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #879 on: April 13, 2019, 11:25:04 AM »
That is just your opinion - I think more common sense for obvious reasons.

When starting a sentence with "I think" it means it is my opinion.

Perhaps you would care to elucidate yours as it is likely to throw a great deal more light on sceptics beliefs than mine ever could.
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline jassi

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #880 on: April 13, 2019, 11:25:56 AM »
So you keep insisting ... while missing that what is posted is in danger of leading the reader to a different conclusion.

Only in your opinion.  If outraged, why not take it up with the Sun ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -   Into year 13 and still no solution.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #881 on: April 13, 2019, 11:27:05 AM »
I think that exactly sums up the sceptics belief ... not so much in the police whose final report laid it on the line ... but in Amaral's beliefs which he formulated in 2007 and which remain the cornerstone for sceptics.

I believe that Amaral saw a way to exonerate himself in The Cipriano Case.  Mothers kill their children.

How on God's earth he was allowed to run the investigation on Missing Madeleine McCann will always be a disgrace to Portugal.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #882 on: April 13, 2019, 11:34:09 AM »
Only in your opinion.  If outraged, why not take it up with the Sun ?

I thought that The Sun article was only a question.  Just to sell newspapers.  There are no accusations within the article.

Offline jassi

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #883 on: April 13, 2019, 11:38:52 AM »
I thought that The Sun article was only a question.  Just to sell newspapers.  There are no accusations within the article.

In which case there is no need for anyone to get worked up about it - IMO
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -   Into year 13 and still no solution.

Offline kizzy

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #884 on: April 13, 2019, 11:50:08 AM »
When starting a sentence with "I think" it means it is my opinion.

Perhaps you would care to elucidate yours as it is likely to throw a great deal more light on sceptics beliefs than mine ever could.

Yes, I know what it means - that why I put it.

As for elucidating - I speak for myself - I don't believe the mcs version of events.

As to list why - I haven't time to sit here all day.

One main belief as the title of the thread - I don't believe a word they say.

POSTS ARE -  MY OWN OPINION