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Offline Holly Goodhead

Crimewatch Appeal - Murder Of Jill Dando - Aired 18.05.99
« on: May 08, 2019, 07:30:34 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuEZzV6VJDc&t=1093s

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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Crimewatch Appeal - Murder Of Jill Dando - Aired 18.05.99
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2019, 07:58:20 AM »
Police thinking around the time of the appeal is spot on imo.  Hamish Campbell who led the investigation talks about the possibility of:

- Multiple people involved
- Emotions
- Money exchanging hands

All of which fit with my theory that someone had a grievance against Alan and Jill's relationship which was high profile and covered by the likes of Hello/OK: engagement, wedding plans and plans to start a family.

That someone, or someone in that someone's circle, had contact with a * * who carried out the murder, which probably but not necessarily involved money exchanging hands, and aligned with the * * ideology in that in its eyes Jill represented the British Establishment: BBC employee, presenting Crimewatch and working alongside and supporting British police officers.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Crimewatch Appeal - Murder Of Jill Dando - Aired 18.05.99
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2019, 08:06:51 AM »
Police thinking around the time of the appeal is spot on imo.  Hamish Campbell who led the investigation talks about the possibility of:

- Multiple people involved
- Emotions
- Money exchanging hands

All of which fit with my theory that someone had a grievance against Alan and Jill's relationship which was high profile and covered by the likes of Hello/OK: engagement, wedding plans and plans to start a family.

That someone, or someone in that someone's circle, had contact with a * * who carried out the murder, which probably but not necessarily involved money exchanging hands, and aligned with the * * ideology in that in its eyes Jill represented the British Establishment: BBC employee, presenting Crimewatch and working alongside and supporting British police officers.

You are entitled to your opinion and outlandish conspiracy theories Holly but I’m only interested in facts.

It’s interesting how you start new threads on this case yet refuse to answer the numerous posts made in response.

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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Crimewatch Appeal - Murder Of Jill Dando - Aired 18.05.99
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2019, 08:03:39 AM »
The Crimewatch appeal refers to multiple witnesses seeing a man/men? (some of the descriptions vary slightly) carrying and/or using mobile phones.  The police investigation searched through call data for hundreds, if not thousands, of mobile calls made in the Chiswick/Fulham area from the time Jill left Chiswick to the time she arrived at Gowan Ave, Fulham and found nothing of interest.  Is it possible what the witnesses thought were mobile phones were in fact walkie talkies?  The use of walkie talkies would enable the perp(s) to communicate without leaving an electronic audit trail.   
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Crimewatch Appeal - Murder Of Jill Dando - Aired 18.05.99
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2019, 11:35:56 AM »
The Crimewatch appeal refers to multiple witnesses seeing a man/men? (some of the descriptions vary slightly) carrying and/or using mobile phones.  The police investigation searched through call data for hundreds, if not thousands, of mobile calls made in the Chiswick/Fulham area from the time Jill left Chiswick to the time she arrived at Gowan Ave, Fulham and found nothing of interest.  Is it possible what the witnesses thought were mobile phones were in fact walkie talkies?  The use of walkie talkies would enable the perp(s) to communicate without leaving an electronic audit trail.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iJGmjFqFdE

A really good docu imo.

Each appeal differs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o2FQAs2FTHc

There’s no mention of mobile phones or “walkie talkies” in the above news clip

There is however suggestion of someone waiting

« Last Edit: May 21, 2019, 11:40:55 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Crimewatch Appeal - Murder Of Jill Dando - Aired 18.05.99
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2019, 11:51:44 AM »
Each appeal differs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o2FQAs2FTHc

There’s no mention of mobile phones or “walkie talkies” in the above news clip

There is however suggestion of someone waiting

Neighbour Richard Hughes describes hearing a commotion

a state of confused and noisy disturbance.

A noisy disturbance can hardly describe a professional
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Crimewatch Appeal - Murder Of Jill Dando - Aired 18.05.99
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2019, 12:06:27 PM »
Neighbour Richard Hughes describes hearing a commotion

a state of confused and noisy disturbance.

A noisy disturbance can hardly describe a professional

I haven't seen any reference to neighbour Richard Hughes hearing a commotion?  Afaik he said he heard a scream but thought it was an excited scream as in someone acknowledging someone.  He then heard a gate click and upon looking out of his window saw a man leaving which he assumed was a friend of Jill's.  If he does refer to a commotion is he referring to the time between Jill arriving and the perp leaving or the time after Jills's acquaintance/neighbour Helen Dobble found Jill some 15 minutues after the murder took place?

When Jill was found by Helen Dobble she rushed to a nearby friend and the pair returned to soc.  The friend then went to a local doctors surgery and returned with a member of staff.  During this time Helen Dobble phoned the emergency services who arrived at soc shortly afterwards.  Is this the commotion Richard Hughes was referring to?
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Crimewatch Appeal - Murder Of Jill Dando - Aired 18.05.99
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2019, 11:06:22 AM »
Each appeal differs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o2FQAs2FTHc

There’s no mention of mobile phones or “walkie talkies” in the above news clip

There is however suggestion of someone waiting

The news clip isn't going to be as detailed as the Crimewatch reconstruction.

The Crimewatch reconstruction refers to:

- Witnesses describing men which vary and locate them near Jill's house and at either end of Gowan Ave: dark haired man wearing a suit; fair haired man wearing a suit; dark haired man wearing a suit and an ill-fitting pair of glasses.  Many of the witnesses assume the men are estate agents.

-  The perp seen leaving Jill's property was dark haired but was wearing a thigh length waxed jacket.

- Other witnesses describe seeing a man in a suit, at times talking into what they assume was a mobile, running along Fulham Park Road shortly after Jill was murdered.  These witnesses were in the main driving so could not possibly know whether the handheld device was in fact a mobile or a walkie talkie or some other device. 

- A witness at a nearby bus stop describes a dark haired man in a suit turning up sweaty. 

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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Crimewatch Appeal - Murder Of Jill Dando - Aired 18.05.99
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2019, 11:18:13 AM »
The news clip isn't going to be as detailed as the Crimewatch reconstruction.

The Crimewatch reconstruction refers to:

- Witnesses describing men which vary and locate them near Jill's house and at either end of Gowan Ave: dark haired man wearing a suit; fair haired man wearing a suit; dark haired man wearing a suit and an ill-fitting pair of glasses.  Many of the witnesses assume the men are estate agents.

-  The perp seen leaving Jill's property was dark haired but was wearing a thigh length waxed jacket.

- Other witnesses describe seeing a man in a suit, at times talking into what they assume was a mobile, running along Fulham Park Road shortly after Jill was murdered.  These witnesses were in the main driving so could not possibly know whether the handheld device was in fact a mobile or a walkie talkie or some other device. 

- A witness at a nearby bus stop describes a dark haired man in a suit turning up sweaty.

IMO the above aligns with the letter from convicted murderer, Wayne Aird, who claims to have been a member of the RIRA and part of a 4 man squad who assassinated Jill. 

The various discrepancies of males hanging around Gowan Ave shortly before Jill was murdered may well have been a lookout either end of Gowan Ave, with the perp in the waxy jacket and a getaway driver some distance away waiting to take the 4 to a safe house: perp, 2 x lookouts and a driver. 

It's widely accepted RIRA were responsible for Omagh bomb Aug '98 and although insufficient evidence to convict, mobile phone call data strongly implicated 4:

Michael McKevitt - Husband to Bernadette Sands-McKevitt sister to the late hunger striker Bobby Sands. 
Liam Campbell
Colm Murphy
Seamus Daly 

Although I believe RIRA were responsible for Jill's murder I'm not necessarily suggesting the above 4 were involved.  But what it does potentially show is an awareness of how mobile phone data can be used to track the location of mobile phones which might be a reason police were unable to find any relevant data if RIRA reverted to walkie talkies.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2019, 11:43:27 AM by Holly Goodhead »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Crimewatch Appeal - Murder Of Jill Dando - Aired 18.05.99
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2019, 12:51:53 PM »
I haven't seen any reference to neighbour Richard Hughes hearing a commotion?  Afaik he said he heard a scream but thought it was an excited scream as in someone acknowledging someone.  He then heard a gate click and upon looking out of his window saw a man leaving which he assumed was a friend of Jill's.  If he does refer to a commotion is he referring to the time between Jill arriving and the perp leaving or the time after Jills's acquaintance/neighbour Helen Dobble found Jill some 15 minutues after the murder took place?

When Jill was found by Helen Dobble she rushed to a nearby friend and the pair returned to soc.  The friend then went to a local doctors surgery and returned with a member of staff.  During this time Helen Dobble phoned the emergency services who arrived at soc shortly afterwards.  Is this the commotion Richard Hughes was referring to?

There you go again attempting to re write history  *&^^&


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o2FQAs2FTHc

Approx 1.25
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Crimewatch Appeal - Murder Of Jill Dando - Aired 18.05.99
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2019, 12:52:58 PM »
IMO the above aligns with the letter from convicted murderer, Wayne Aird, who claims to have been a member of the RIRA and part of a 4 man squad who assassinated Jill. 

The various discrepancies of males hanging around Gowan Ave shortly before Jill was murdered may well have been a lookout either end of Gowan Ave, with the perp in the waxy jacket and a getaway driver some distance away waiting to take the 4 to a safe house: perp, 2 x lookouts and a driver. 

It's widely accepted RIRA were responsible for Omagh bomb Aug '98 and although insufficient evidence to convict, mobile phone call data strongly implicated 4:

Michael McKevitt - Husband to Bernadette Sands-McKevitt sister to the late hunger striker Bobby Sands. 
Liam Campbell
Colm Murphy
Seamus Daly 

Although I believe RIRA were responsible for Jill's murder I'm not necessarily suggesting the above 4 were involved.  But what it does potentially show is an awareness of how mobile phone data can be used to track the location of mobile phones which might be a reason police were unable to find any relevant data if RIRA reverted to walkie talkies.

Now you are just being silly
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Crimewatch Appeal - Murder Of Jill Dando - Aired 18.05.99
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2019, 12:54:08 PM »
The news clip isn't going to be as detailed as the Crimewatch reconstruction.

The Crimewatch reconstruction refers to:

- Witnesses describing men which vary and locate them near Jill's house and at either end of Gowan Ave: dark haired man wearing a suit; fair haired man wearing a suit; dark haired man wearing a suit and an ill-fitting pair of glasses.  Many of the witnesses assume the men are estate agents.

-  The perp seen leaving Jill's property was dark haired but was wearing a thigh length waxed jacket.

- Other witnesses describe seeing a man in a suit, at times talking into what they assume was a mobile, running along Fulham Park Road shortly after Jill was murdered.  These witnesses were in the main driving so could not possibly know whether the handheld device was in fact a mobile or a walkie talkie or some other device. 

- A witness at a nearby bus stop describes a dark haired man in a suit turning up sweaty.

Though I suspect you know you are being silly

It’s been made clear a misguided individual murdered Jill Dando!


2nd July 2001
We all hope that this trial will act as a milestone for each of us, in coming to terms with the enormous loss of Jill," he said outside the Old Bailey.
"I believe that it is worth emphasising that we are not here because of a misguided individual who so cruelly took someone's life.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1418573.stm

2nd April 2019
'For what it's worth, my belief is that it was just a misguided individual on the street on the day, with a firearm, who knew where Jill lived, and who just 'struck lucky'.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6876353/Jill-Dandos-brother-believes-misguided-person-blame-murder-TWENTY-years-ago.html
« Last Edit: May 22, 2019, 01:00:40 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Crimewatch Appeal - Murder Of Jill Dando - Aired 18.05.99
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2019, 01:26:49 PM »
There you go again attempting to re write history  *&^^&

Approx 1.25

At approx 17.25 you can hear Richard Hughes's full account:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlIgI4aLmVU

He confirms at the time he thought nothing of the scream and put it down to Jill greeting a friend and explains that's why he didn't do anything.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Crimewatch Appeal - Murder Of Jill Dando - Aired 18.05.99
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2019, 01:32:05 PM »
At approx 17.25 you can hear Richard Hughes's full account:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlIgI4aLmVU

He confirms at the time he thought nothing of the scream and put it down to Jill greeting a friend and explains that's why he didn't do anything.

He described hearing a commotion!


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o2FQAs2FTHc

What date is the above video Holly? The day of the murder!

Richard Hughes gives his account to camera. He referred to hearing a commotion
« Last Edit: May 22, 2019, 01:35:51 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Crimewatch Appeal - Murder Of Jill Dando - Aired 18.05.99
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2019, 01:41:58 PM »
He described hearing a commotion!

What date is the above video Holly? The day of the murder!

Richard Hughes gives his account to camera. He referred to hearing a commotion

So he describes a "commotion".  The fact remains he did not think anything untoward had happened otherwise he would have taken some action eg give chase if he was brave, tend to Jill or call emergency services.  It was another 15 minutes after he heard the scream that a nearby acquaintance of Jill's found her body on the doorstep.
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