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Offline The General

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #75 on: June 03, 2019, 07:52:55 AM »
The experiment is a valid one and very interesting.
Doesn't quite translate to 3 people crossing paths (or not) in a quiet little road in a holiday resort. Two fellas, one 6' 3" with a push chair, the other a boisterous Glaswegian, both chatting. No gorilla required.




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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #76 on: June 03, 2019, 07:55:27 AM »
Perhaps someone should devise a psychological test to determine why sceptics accept the fallibilty of human memory in all circumstances except the Madeleine McCann case, in particular the parents and their friends.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #77 on: June 03, 2019, 07:59:11 AM »
The experiment is a valid one and very interesting.
Doesn't quite translate to 3 people crossing paths (or not) in a quiet little road in a holiday resort. Two fellas, one 6' 3" with a push chair, the other a boisterous Glaswegian, both chatting. No gorilla required.
I walked past an acquaintance last week, our shoulders approximately two feet apart, in broad daylight with no one else around.  I am not registered blind but didn’t see him until he stopped in his tracks turned round and called me.  How do you explain this phenomenon?  I was on a mission, lost in my own thoughts and avoiding eye contact, but I’m not a liar or insane.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #78 on: June 03, 2019, 09:20:24 AM »
Must admit to falling asleep listening to last one.  Their explanation for not seeing Jane was concentration.  There is an experiment where people are asked to count the number of times a ball is passed between the team but very few see the gorilla walk across the court.   Have you tested yourself on that one?
Rob ... all my life I have walked past people my nearest and dearest included ... I don't need any experiment to prove it can be done very easily ... I have never doubted for a moment that that the men did not see Jane ... I have never doubted for a moment that Jane saw a man carrying a child on the road ahead of her.
We now know that there was a distinctive looking man doing just that around the time in question ... yet there is no mention of any witness seeing him.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline John

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #79 on: June 03, 2019, 09:26:27 AM »
Rob ... all my life I have walked past people my nearest and dearest included ... I don't need any experiment to prove it can be done very easily ... I have never doubted for a moment that that the men did not see Jane ... I have never doubted for a moment that Jane saw a man carrying a child on the road ahead of her.
We now know that there was a distinctive looking man doing just that around the time in question ... yet there is no mention of any witness seeing him.

Amaral claimed that Jane turned left into the footpath before she got to the men and that is why they never saw her. He also claimed that Jane saw the man carrying the child from her northern balcony. All very strange indeed.

If the innocent tourist was the man Jane saw then why was he walking from west to east which was the opposite direction to that reported by him?
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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline G-Unit

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #80 on: June 03, 2019, 09:32:48 AM »
It's a well-known psychological test.

Allegedly, a bunch of policemen were training at a police college.

During a lecture, a workman entered and went to the rear of the class.  A short while later the man exited by the same door at the front of the lecture room.

Towards the end of the session, the policemen were asked to describe what had happened.

'Well, I think he was carrying a bucket, so I assume he washed the windows'.  The workman hadn't.

How would the class describe this 'perpetrator'?  Basically, they couldn't.

 *%87

Did any of them fail to see him at all?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #81 on: June 03, 2019, 09:37:50 AM »
Amaral claimed that Jane turned left into the footpath before she got to the men and that is why they never saw her. He also claimed that Jane saw the man carrying the child from her northern balcony. All very strange indeed.

If the innocent tourist was the man Jane saw then why was he walking from west to east which was the opposite direction to that reported by him?

Exactly.  Some of us spotted this because we know Praia de Luz front, back and sideways.

I can't speak for Andy Redwood.  Did he ever go there?

Offline John

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #82 on: June 03, 2019, 09:51:43 AM »
Exactly.  Some of us spotted this because we know Praia de Luz front, back and sideways.

I can't speak for Andy Redwood.  Did he ever go there?

Several times including his last throw of the dice before he retired from the MET when they dug up the waste ground near the shore looking for Maddie's remains.
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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #83 on: June 03, 2019, 09:53:25 AM »
Did any of them fail to see him at all?

I don't know.

This tale comes from many a year ago.  That's why I wrapped it in an allegedly, before someone wielded the cite bludgeon.
What's up, old man?

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #84 on: June 03, 2019, 09:56:46 AM »
Several times including his last throw of the dice before he retired from the MET when they dug up the waste ground near the shore looking for Maddie's remains.

That's news to me.

Do you have any further information you would care to share?
What's up, old man?

Offline Eleanor

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #85 on: June 03, 2019, 10:06:29 AM »
Several times including his last throw of the dice before he retired from the MET when they dug up the waste ground near the shore looking for Maddie's remains.

So how did he fail to see what most of us know?

Offline Eleanor

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #86 on: June 03, 2019, 10:07:25 AM »
That's news to me.

Do you have any further information you would care to share?

Are you asking for a Cite?

Offline Carana

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #87 on: June 03, 2019, 10:14:19 AM »
Amaral claimed that Jane turned left into the footpath before she got to the men and that is why they never saw her. He also claimed that Jane saw the man carrying the child from her northern balcony. All very strange indeed.

If the innocent tourist was the man Jane saw then why was he walking from west to east which was the opposite direction to that reported by him?

??

That doesn't ring any bells for me, John.

The Tanner / O'Brien flat didn't have a north balcony, did it?

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #88 on: June 03, 2019, 10:25:23 AM »
Are you asking for a Cite?

No, I'm not a fan of the cite game.   *&^^&

I was enquiring as to whether John had any further snippets of information, because I am intrigued as to when and how this occurred.  I could then put out feelers in Luz to see if more can be ascertained.

It's called progress.   &^^&*
What's up, old man?

Offline Eleanor

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #89 on: June 03, 2019, 10:41:27 AM »
No, I'm not a fan of the cite game.   *&^^&

I was enquiring as to whether John had any further snippets of information, because I am intrigued as to when and how this occurred.  I could then put out feelers in Luz to see if more can be ascertained.

It's called progress.   &^^&*

Oh Good.  I'm not very good at Cites either.