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Offline misty

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #135 on: June 17, 2019, 11:56:27 AM »
Fair enough, though heaven knows why you’d want me to reiterate Kate’s dishonesty.

From Madeleine by Kate McCann.

We’d never lied about anything – not to the police, not to the media, not to anyone else. But now we found ourselves in one of those tricky situations where we just didn’t seem to have a choice. As it happened, Gerry had a mild stomach upset which we used as an excuse to postpone the trip. We didn’t feel good about this at all, but even if the judicial secrecy law had not prevented us from giving the main reason, can you imagine what would have happened if we’d announced to the journalists heading for Huelva that the police were coming to do some forensic work in our villa? We were not to know our excuse would prove to be no more than a temporary holding measure. If we had, we wouldn’t have bothered trying to keep the scurrilous headlines at bay.

In what way did that white lie of an excuse to the media harm the PJ investigation or the McCanns' credibility?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #136 on: June 17, 2019, 11:58:13 AM »
So do you think Gerry was completely unaware some months later while giving his interview that the tapas had been block booked for THE WHOLE week on the Sunday prior to May 3?
The block booking was against the rules of the business arrangement between Mark Warner and the Ocean Club.  I have seen it,  the one group was not suppose to block book night after night, to allow all MW guests a chance to dine at the Tapas.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #137 on: June 17, 2019, 11:58:32 AM »
In what way did that white lie of an excuse to the media harm the PJ investigation or the McCanns' credibility?

It’s a lie.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Brietta

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #138 on: June 17, 2019, 11:58:48 AM »
Fair enough, though heaven knows why you’d want me to reiterate Kate’s dishonesty.

From Madeleine by Kate McCann.

We’d never lied about anything – not to the police, not to the media, not to anyone else. But now we found ourselves in one of those tricky situations where we just didn’t seem to have a choice. As it happened, Gerry had a mild stomach upset which we used as an excuse to postpone the trip. We didn’t feel good about this at all, but even if the judicial secrecy law had not prevented us from giving the main reason, can you imagine what would have happened if we’d announced to the journalists heading for Huelva that the police were coming to do some forensic work in our villa? We were not to know our excuse would prove to be no more than a temporary holding measure. If we had, we wouldn’t have bothered trying to keep the scurrilous headlines at bay.

Thank you.

It is always good to have everything in context, don't you think, and viewing what Kate actually said certainly puts it all in context as I'm sure you knew it would.

By the way ... I have missed out on appointments or changed arrangements due to having a 'mild stomach upset' as such a complaint has the potential to escalate into a major embarrassment depending on circumstances..
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #139 on: June 17, 2019, 12:03:17 PM »
Find The Evidence.  Proof is another thing altogether.  Some of us ageing people haven't quite lost our marbles, probably due to arguing this case.  Nor you neither.

It is all a case of Semantics in the end, and a desire to be able to put across our totally irrelevant understanding of The Law.

Your average Barrister would discard most of what we talk about.

I often have to think about what I might say, mainly because I don't want to come across as a complete ignoramus.  But I probably could tell you what actually matters.

Very good point.   8@??)(
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline misty

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #140 on: June 17, 2019, 12:04:04 PM »
It’s a lie.

Father Christmas is a lie.
Would it have been better for the McCanns to lead the press away from what the PJ were planning to do at the villa, thus practicing deception?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #141 on: June 17, 2019, 12:08:32 PM »
The block booking was against the rules of the business arrangement between Mark Warner and the Ocean Club.  I have seen it,  the one group was not suppose to block book night after night, to allow all MW guests a chance to dine at the Tapas.

Thank You, Rob.  This is true.  Their party was never sure.

Offline jassi

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #142 on: June 17, 2019, 12:11:38 PM »
Thank You, Rob.  This is true. Their party was never sure.

Sure of that, or is that just your opinion ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #143 on: June 17, 2019, 12:12:47 PM »
It’s a lie.

No, it is not.  Blimin Semantics again.  Which is all you have.

Offline Brietta

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #144 on: June 17, 2019, 12:14:59 PM »
I am now eighty years old.  I am generally totally ignored,  unless when people around me are trying to be kind.  My memory is absolutely suspect when it comes to things I don't want to remember.  But I remember every single thing about this case that I ever read, although this can never be all.  There is just too much of it.

In the beginning I gave much thought to the involvement of The McCanns.  I thought that they were involved.  On reflection, God knows why.  There is nothing with which to indict them.  I can only guess that I briefly got carried away with The Blame Game.  I am still mortally ashamed.  Especially when I finally remembered that I had left my own children alone in similar circumstances.

The one thing I am certain sure of is that should The McCanns eventually be found to be culpable I won't have spent the last twelve years being thoroughly nasty, and doing my head in with such hatred.

An excellent post which merits quiet contemplation for some about the legitimacy of the hounding of a family over a twelve year period in the way it continues to be encouraged and condoned.

None know better than us the utter balderdash which pollutes the internet regarding them.  How anyone can justify in any way that Madeleine's siblings cannot possibly escape from any of that is surely beyond belief or excuse.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #145 on: June 17, 2019, 12:16:57 PM »
Very good point.   8@??)(

Thanks for appreciating that.  I spent many moons In Court listening to people arguing irrelevant rubbish.  I never lost a Case.

Offline Erngath

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #146 on: June 17, 2019, 12:17:22 PM »
I don't recall any of the other group members suggesting that there was doubt about the booking.

Were they in that video interview?
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline jassi

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #147 on: June 17, 2019, 12:20:07 PM »
Were they in that video interview?

You tell me. I've said I don't remember such an event.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline jassi

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #148 on: June 17, 2019, 12:21:57 PM »
An excellent post which merits quiet contemplation for some about the legitimacy of the hounding of a family over a twelve year period in the way it continues to be encouraged and condoned.

None know better than us the utter balderdash which pollutes the internet regarding them.  How anyone can justify in any way that Madeleine's siblings cannot possibly escape from any of that is surely beyond belief or excuse.

Nobody needs to justify anything unless they break the law
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #149 on: June 17, 2019, 12:22:57 PM »
Sure of that, or is that just your opinion ?

It was not a regular arrangement and did prevent other people from booking.  The arrangement could have been cancelled.

God shut my mouth.  If only you knew how often.