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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #345 on: June 18, 2019, 09:30:16 PM »
Or bad fiction.
You don't almost think of doing something, you either think about it or you don't

Yeah it seems to come from that same bag of tricks 'it felt safe'  well hw could they possibley know it felt safe while here in the UK?  They planned to keave the children alone every night even before they left the UK.

Oh like sitting in the garden... It is a cultural thing... defence, defence, defence.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #346 on: June 18, 2019, 09:34:31 PM »
Aw, shucks. Thank you. LOL

You're welcome. Your knowledge of the PJ files is impressive imo.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #347 on: June 18, 2019, 09:39:56 PM »
Yeah it seems to come from that same bag of tricks 'it felt safe'  well hw could they possibley know it felt safe while here in the UK?  They planned to keave the children alone every night even before they left the UK.

Oh like sitting in the garden... It is a cultural thing... defence, defence, defence.

There's always the possibility, of course, that Gerry let slip the truth. Perhaps they were in danger of their booking beng cancelled by others, rather than by themselves?
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #348 on: June 18, 2019, 10:02:19 PM »
There's always the possibility, of course, that Gerry let slip the truth. Perhaps they were in danger of their booking beng cancelled by others, rather than by themselves?

but that is not how it comes across to me...it is as if he is saying well it was just bad luck or something of that ilk. 
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #349 on: June 18, 2019, 10:39:18 PM »
So you think I'm decietful and you think you know why? I think you're barking up the wrong trees. 

Carana's post didn't confirm that Gerry wasn't lyiing. He said;

"we weren't sure we were going to get into the Tapas; remember?"

Did anyone else say that? No, they said they thought of cancelling their booking.
I don’t think I’m barking up the wrong tree and I do think Carana’s cite is very strong evidence that Gerry was not guilty of lying or of ruining his credibility with his comment as was suggested by the OP..
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #350 on: June 18, 2019, 10:49:31 PM »
There's always the possibility, of course, that Gerry let slip the truth. Perhaps they were in danger of their booking beng cancelled by others, rather than by themselves?

Didn't Gerry say to Jez that if they hadn’t been with their group he wouldn’t be going to the tapas ? No mention of their booking being a bit uncertain. In fact no mention from any of the group in any of their statements that there was the possibility that their booking wasn’t secure.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #351 on: June 18, 2019, 10:51:38 PM »
Didn't Gerry say to Jez that if they hadn’t been with their group he wouldn’t be going to the tapas ? No mention of their booking being a bit uncertain. In fact no mention from any of the group in any of their statements that there was the possibility that their booking wasn’t secure.
There was uncertainty about where the group were going to eat that night.  That is not a lie.  You are taking pointless pedantry to new heights. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Erngath

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #352 on: June 18, 2019, 11:19:48 PM »
Erngath yesterday

‘I lie every day!’


Picking on me again. @)(++(*

I do and I did tonight.
I'm just in from a concert performed by High School pupils.
I told them that they all were wonderful.
Actually they weren't  all wonderful.
Most were but not all!
Another lie!
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #353 on: June 18, 2019, 11:24:09 PM »

Picking on me again. @)(++(*

I do and I did tonight.
I'm just in from a concert performed by High School pupils.
I told them that they all were wonderful.
Actually they weren't  all wonderful.
Most were but not all!
Another lie!


I’m afraid you, I and the general are failed souls....Sadie however is cut from different cloth.

As to your concert, sometimes a lie is kinder.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #354 on: June 18, 2019, 11:33:03 PM »
I don’t think I’m barking up the wrong tree and I do think Carana’s cite is very strong evidence that Gerry was not guilty of lying or of ruining his credibility with his comment as was suggested by the OP..

Are you saying he didn't contradict what his wife and Jane said? Let's pretend to be flies on a wall.

Gerry; we weren't sure we were going to get into the Tapas.
Kate; we were sure we were going to get into the Tapas; we had a booking every evening at 8:30.
Gerry; why did we discuss going to the Millennium then?
Kate and Jane; because we thought of cancelling our booking.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #355 on: June 18, 2019, 11:34:37 PM »
Are you saying he didn't contradict what his wife and Jane said? Let's pretend to be flies on a wall.

Gerry; we weren't sure we were going to get into the Tapas.
Kate; we were sure we were going to get into the Tapas; we had a booking every evening at 8:30.
Gerry; why did we discuss going to the Millennium then?
Kate and Jane; because we thought of cancelling our booking.
I thought you dealt in facts alone? 
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #356 on: June 18, 2019, 11:44:18 PM »
I really don’t understand why this has become such an important issue for some.  It is clear that Gerry was beating himself up for the decision they had made to eat at the Tapas that night, a decision which was almost overturned during a discussion earlier in the day, which therefore made subsequent events even more poignant and unbearable.  Whether it was because their booking was in doubt or they considered cancelling is really neither here nor there - Gerry confers no advantage to himself whatsoever by claiming the former over the latter, in fact this revelation only heightens the sense of guilt which he must have felt and to which he was owning up to in the interview.  Calling him a liar is just spiteful name-calling and reveals far more about those starting threads about it on forums 12 years later than it does about Gerry McCann.  IMO.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #357 on: June 19, 2019, 08:21:45 AM »
I really don’t understand why this has become such an important issue for some.  It is clear that Gerry was beating himself up for the decision they had made to eat at the Tapas that night, a decision which was almost overturned during a discussion earlier in the day, which therefore made subsequent events even more poignant and unbearable.  Whether it was because their booking was in doubt or they considered cancelling is really neither here nor there - Gerry confers no advantage to himself whatsoever by claiming the former over the latter, in fact this revelation only heightens the sense of guilt which he must have felt and to which he was owning up to in the interview.  Calling him a liar is just spiteful name-calling and reveals far more about those starting threads about it on forums 12 years later than it does about Gerry McCann.  IMO.

So we are taking Jane’s garbled statement as proof that there was a serious discussion of the T9 eating elsewhere?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #358 on: June 19, 2019, 08:23:47 AM »
So we are taking Jane’s garbled statement as proof that there was a serious discussion of the T9 eating elsewhere?
Give me one good reason why we shouldn’t. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #359 on: June 19, 2019, 08:27:02 AM »
Give me one good reason why we shouldn’t.

Because her statement doesn’t say that.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.