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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #480 on: June 23, 2019, 11:33:24 PM »
Not sure why I can see your post but you illustrate my point admirably. Two quotes a month apart, each saying very different things. It seems in this case the truth is as fluid as the wine in the tapas bar.
Not very different things, saying the same thing really, just correcting a minor inaccuracy in his earlier interview perhaps.  We all do it, so why should this be in any way suspicious?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #481 on: June 23, 2019, 11:38:27 PM »
Not very different things, saying the same thing really, just correcting a minor inaccuracy in his earlier interview perhaps.  We all do it, so why should this be in any way suspicious?

It’s not suspicious. He’s doing what he’s been paid to do...to defuse the harm done by information which has been made public.

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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #482 on: June 24, 2019, 07:14:15 AM »
It’s not suspicious. He’s doing what he’s been paid to do...to defuse the harm done by information which has been made public.

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What harm was done by what information bring made public?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #483 on: June 24, 2019, 07:45:12 AM »
What would rule out the possibility that the McCanns had access to a car prior to the alarm?

I'm just pointing out that it can't be stated with certainty that they didn't have access to a car. That's not a fact.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #484 on: June 24, 2019, 08:07:13 AM »
I'm just pointing out that it can't be stated with certainty that they didn't have access to a car. That's not a fact.
It can be stated with certainty that they did not have access to a car.   Now it’s up to you to prove that  ststement wrong.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #485 on: June 24, 2019, 08:10:47 AM »
The claim was to explain the anomalies in the group’s timings. If the anomalies were to be expected why didn’t Mitchell just state that. Why claim something that he could have no idea was true ?

What is it with this case that when the truth or no comment would be by far the most sensible response those involved always chose dishonesty ?

Once the little white lies start...
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #486 on: June 24, 2019, 08:11:33 AM »
Once the little white lies start...

Indeed.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #487 on: June 24, 2019, 08:13:54 AM »
Once the little white lies start...
You appear to be accusing Mitchell of lying.  Is that not against forum rules Moderator?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #488 on: June 24, 2019, 08:17:38 AM »
You appear to be accusing Mitchell of lying.  Is that not against forum rules Moderator?

Since we have two contradictory statements in this thread, a valid assumption.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #489 on: June 24, 2019, 08:18:37 AM »
Since we have two contradictory statements in this thread, a valid assumption.
So it’s now ok to accuse Mitchell and the McCanns of lying is it? Can we extend that to others who have made contradictory statements like Murat for example?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #490 on: June 24, 2019, 08:19:57 AM »
Since we have two contradictory statements in this thread, a valid assumption.

as you are basing your opinion on the validity of newsaper articles your opinion has similar validity

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #491 on: June 24, 2019, 08:57:23 AM »
It can be stated with certainty that they did not have access to a car.   Now it’s up to you to prove that  ststement wrong.

No it isn't. It's up to those claiming that statement is factual.
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #492 on: June 24, 2019, 09:16:48 AM »
No it isn't. It's up to those claiming that statement is factual.

First it has to be proved that there was a Car.

This is a silly suggestion that there was, in my opinion.  Twelve years and no sign that any such car existed.  What proof would you like?

Offline Lace

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #493 on: June 24, 2019, 10:35:19 AM »
The witness statements will prove it.  Matt was accused of being involved on 10 May 2007 by the PJ and he started providing interesting info especially as he wore a watch that night. He said Kate left at 21:50 to check and nobody apart from Gerry said she was gone long. 21:50 corroborates with the waiter that served Russell his steak moments before Kate left the table. That puts the alarm before 22:00 and the Smith sighting.

Russell managed to eat most of his dinner before the alarm.

They then all went back to 5a,  the friends all say they all headed back to 5a.  So how much time would have gone by,  by the time they had all gone back to 5a to search?   Gerry tried the blind,   Dianne said she tried too so she must have known that Gerry had lifted it up,  so how much time had gone by then?


A waiter saw Gerry searching around the pool area,  when he left the restaurant there was already about 40 people gathered outside to search for Madeleine.


So did Gerry leave the apartment with Madeleine when the people were gathering?




Offline faithlilly

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #494 on: June 24, 2019, 11:14:52 AM »
Russell managed to eat most of his dinner before the alarm.

They then all went back to 5a,  the friends all say they all headed back to 5a.  So how much time would have gone by,  by the time they had all gone back to 5a to search?   Gerry tried the blind,   Dianne said she tried too so she must have known that Gerry had lifted it up,  so how much time had gone by then?


A waiter saw Gerry searching around the pool area,  when he left the restaurant there was already about 40 people gathered outside to search for Madeleine.


So did Gerry leave the apartment with Madeleine when the people were gathering?


There is nothing to suggest that Diane Webster knew that Gerry had already tampered with the blind.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?