Why do some believe the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance?

[Mr Gray]

Not necessarily. Holly has admitted to knowing very little and is now gathering information. Ergo, Holly is currently impartial and 'on the fence' due to lack of data to form a judgement.

We were all fencesitters originally I would say... A decision is, then made on looking at the evidence

[Mr Gray]

I am not fond of the terms sceptic, supporter or fence-sitter, so how about I liken the forum to the House of Commons?  An equal amount of nonsense is bandied about.  In HoC parlance, I'm an Independent.

You either believe the mccanns do not know what happened to Maddie... As they say... Or you don't believe them..

Posters might not like the label but it's totally factual

[Mr Gray]

I wasn't  talking about opnions based on evidence.

Then you accept there's nothing wrong with opinions based on evidence...

[The General]

We were all fencesitters originally I would say... A decision is, then made on looking at the evidence

That's what I just said. I qualified your assertion that fence sitters are sceptical.

[Mr Gray]

That's what I just said. I qualified your assertion that fence sitters are sceptical.

They are sceptical... They may change... But if they do not believe the mccanns they are sceptics

[ShiningInLuz]

You either believe the mccanns do not know what happened to Maddie... As they say... Or you don't believe them..

Posters might not like the label but it's totally factual

I'm not interested in beliefs.  Not the McCann beliefs nor any poster's beliefs.

Nor am I interested in labels or your apparent belief it is 'totally factual'.   

[The General]

They are sceptical... They may change... But if they do not believe the mccanns they are sceptics

Kinell, here we go.
Terry Waite, fresh from being chained to a radiator for 6 years in a toilet in Beirut.
He comes back and decides to reprise himself of the McCann case (timescales not correct at time of typing).
He's been in solitary for 2 years, so he knows nothing.
He's on the fence. He's not sceptical, he hasn't a clue what's going on, he's collecting data.

[Mr Gray]

I'm not interested in beliefs.  Not the McCann beliefs nor any poster's beliefs.

Nor am I interested in labels or your apparent belief it is 'totally factual'.   

I can't write everything  out every post.. My beliefs are based on evidence... That's how the justice, system works..

What is, factual is that if you don't believe the mccanns you are, a, sceptic.. Like it or not

[G-Unit]

You either believe the mccanns do not know what happened to Maddie... As they say... Or you don't believe them..

Posters might not like the label but it's totally factual

You have decided that you definitely believe them. Others have decided they definitely don't. Why can't you acknowledge that there may be some who haven't decided?

[The General]

You have decided that you definitely believe them. Others have decided they definitely don't. Why can't you acknowledge that there may be some who haven't decided?

Because he's never wrong, even when he is.

[Robittybob1]

I've answerred this point countless times... A jury verdict is often opinion based on evidence.

Based on the evidence I come to the conclusion the McCanns are not involved... That leaves the involvement of a stranger... Either in or out of the apartment

I like that Davel - is that the first time you have conceded that woke and wandered is a possibility?

[Robittybob1]

Because he's never wrong, even when he is.

I can't comment on that.

[Mr Gray]

Kinell, here we go.
Terry Waite, fresh from being chained to a radiator for 6 years in a toilet in Beirut.
He comes back and decides to reprise himself of the McCann case (timescales not correct at time of typing).
He's been in solitary for 2 years, so he knows nothing.
He's on the fence. He's not sceptical, he hasn't a clue what's going on, he's collecting data.

Does he believe the parents account... Or is he sceptical of them

[Mr Gray]

Because he's never wrong, even when he is.

I haven't said I definitely believe them.... But Im 99.9 % sure they are not involved

[Mr Gray]

I like that Davel - is that the first time you have conceded that woke and wandered is a possibility?

No it isn't the first time.... I've said it from the start... Look at my interpretation of the odds