The timeline revisited

[Vertigo Swirl]

I wonder why no one has thought to put all Brückner’s vehicles in a garage and pay Martin Grime to set the dogs on them?

[barrier]

I wonder why no one has thought to put all Brückner’s vehicles in a garage and pay Martin Grime to set the dogs on them?

How do you know the Germans haven't, they had doggies when digging his allotment for him.

[Vertigo Swirl]

How do you know the Germans haven't, they had doggies when digging his allotment for him.

In the same way that we know they had dogs on his allotment we would probably know aabout dogs being used to find residual scent in his cars.  But hey, perhaps they did and the dogs positively alerted and that’s Wolters concrete evidence, eh? 

[Mr Gray]

How do you know the Germans haven't, they had doggies when digging his allotment for him.

They may well have done.. With the dogs doing what they were trained to do... Find evidence

[The General]

They may well have done.. With the dogs doing what they were trained to do... Find evidence

...of no evidentiary value?

[Vertigo Swirl]

...of no evidentiary value?

Let me help you.  If the dogs find a human skull, the skull is evidence.  If the dogs find a bad smell it is not evidence without additional forensic evidence.  You're welcome.

[G-Unit]

Let me help you.  If the dogs find a human skull, the skull is evidence.  If the dogs find a bad smell it is not evidence without additional forensic evidence.  You're welcome.

Corroberating evidence doesn't have to be forensic, it can be circumstantial.

[Mr Gray]

Corroberating evidence doesn't have to be forensic, it can be circumstantial.

Not according to Mark harrison and every cadaver dog expert apart from grime

[The General]

Not according to Mark harrison and every cadaver dog expert apart from grime

Sauce.

[Mr Gray]

Sauce.

I've cited Harrison's quote many times.. It was Harrison who came up with the idea of using alerts as intelligence. Grime is the only handler I've heard saying the alerts can be corroborated by anectdotal evidence.. It's a barmy idea from a scientific viewpoint snd I have never seen any support from any other expert

[Mr Gray]

Sauce.

Grime claims that anectodotal evidence can corrobortae an alert ...that statement in itself is risible  because anectdotal evidence...scientifically cannot be releid upon.
Wolters has proper evidence he claims taht maddie was murdered and did not die in the apartment. If he has Grimes claims will yhave no credibility and may well affect how cadaver dog evidence is seen by those courts who have admitted it. That taken with coconut gate where eddie alerted specifically to the coconut a second time according to an official report...will put the alerts in fantasy land where they belong

[G-Unit]

Not according to Mark harrison and every cadaver dog expert apart from grime

It's not up to them to decide which evidence is used in court.

[Brietta]

It's not up to them to decide which evidence is used in court.

That is for sure.  As anyone who has read the reports from Praia da Luz and Haute de la Garenne will be able to verify.

[Mr Gray]

It's not up to them to decide which evidence is used in court.

You need to understand they are guided by the experts... Do you not realise that.  The judge just didn't decide on his own.
In the Bianca Jones case they were admitted because Stockholm argued the case

[Mr Gray]

It's not up to them to decide which evidence is used in court.

According to Grime Eddie only alerted to the McCanns apt and car.. Ignoring all others.  If Eddie is as reliable as Grime has claimed the Eddie must have been alerting to cadaver odour.  So if Eddie is reliable Maddies cafaver must have been in the apt and car... Unless the odour was planted by the PJ.
If it transpires it can be proven Maddie didn't die in the apt then Grime has sone explaining to do