The timeline revisited

[Brietta]

Judge orders release of man suspected in Gina DeJesus' disappearance (republished)
Updated: Jan. 12, 2019, 6:58 a.m. | Published: May. 04, 2013,

A judge ordered Matthew Hurayt released from the Cuyahoga County Jail Monday, overriding the protests of prosecutors who maintain he may have been involved in the disappearance of Gina DeJesus.

Assistant County Prosecutor Jennifer Driscoll said a police dog trained to alert officers to the scent of cadavers “indicated” in three locations at Hurayt's West 50th Street home on Friday that a dead body may have been present at one time.

Two of the locations where the dog sat, the indicator used to alert police, were in Hurayt's garage, where an informant told investigators Hurayt had buried the girl's body beneath a freshly poured concrete floor. Investigators tore up the floor in the garage and under a doghouse.

The dog also alerted to a location in the house, Driscoll said.

Police arrested Hurayt, 35, a registered sexual predator, on Thursday based on the informant's tip. But investigators who dug up the garage floor and searched the house didn't find a body or any physical evidence of the girl, who has been missing since April 2004. Nineteen items removed from the house will be investigated further, Driscoll said.
https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2013/05/judge_orders_release_of_man_su.html


Gina DeJesus was not dead.

She had been kidnapped by Ariel Castro and imprisoned along with Michelle Knight and Amanda Berry for nearly ten years.
The girls escaped from incarceration May 6, 2013.

The dog 'alerts' misled investigators and prosecutors.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Judge orders release of man suspected in Gina DeJesus' disappearance (republished)
Updated: Jan. 12, 2019, 6:58 a.m. | Published: May. 04, 2013,

A judge ordered Matthew Hurayt released from the Cuyahoga County Jail Monday, overriding the protests of prosecutors who maintain he may have been involved in the disappearance of Gina DeJesus.

Assistant County Prosecutor Jennifer Driscoll said a police dog trained to alert officers to the scent of cadavers “indicated” in three locations at Hurayt's West 50th Street home on Friday that a dead body may have been present at one time.

Two of the locations where the dog sat, the indicator used to alert police, were in Hurayt's garage, where an informant told investigators Hurayt had buried the girl's body beneath a freshly poured concrete floor. Investigators tore up the floor in the garage and under a doghouse.

The dog also alerted to a location in the house, Driscoll said.

Police arrested Hurayt, 35, a registered sexual predator, on Thursday based on the informant's tip. But investigators who dug up the garage floor and searched the house didn't find a body or any physical evidence of the girl, who has been missing since April 2004. Nineteen items removed from the house will be investigated further, Driscoll said.
https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2013/05/judge_orders_release_of_man_su.html


Gina DeJesus was not dead.

She had been kidnapped by Ariel Castro and imprisoned along with Michelle Knight and Amanda Berry for nearly ten years.
The girls escaped from incarceration May 6, 2013.

The dog 'alerts' misled investigators and prosecutors.

Looking forward to hearing how dog apologists spin this one.

[Brietta]

Looking forward to hearing how dog apologists spin this one.

Obviously this was not a pleasant guy - but a dog marking areas in his house and in his garage did not make him a murderer.

Particularly as his supposed victim had been kidnapped and held prisoner for all those years by someone else.

[G-Unit]

Looking forward to hearing how dog apologists spin this one.

As I've pointed out before, each dog is different and standards vary.

[Vertigo Swirl]

As I've pointed out before, each dog is different and standards vary.

And what standard had the dog in the Gina deJesus case achieved (or not achieved)?  Explain how you are able to conclude that Eddie and Keela were of a higher standard than any dog in any case that gives a false alert to cadaver odour. 

[G-Unit]

And what standard had the dog in the Gina deJesus case achieved (or not achieved)?  Explain how you are able to conclude that Eddie and Keela were of a higher standard than any dog in any case that gives a false alert to cadaver odour.

I don't know the standard reached by the dog in question. These dogs can only be judged by their track records, and I do know that Eddie had never given a false alert. I also know that there's a wide variety of expertise (or lack thereof) in the US.

[Mr Gray]

I don't know the standard reached by the dog in question. These dogs can only be judged by their track records, and I do know that Eddie had never given a false alert. I also know that there's a wide variety of expertise (or lack thereof) in the US.

You don't know thst Eddie hsd never given a false alert.. Thst is absolute codswallop and shows how little you understand the alerts.

[Mr Gray]

I don't know the standard reached by the dog in question. These dogs can only be judged by their track records, and I do know that Eddie had never given a false alert. I also know that there's a wide variety of expertise (or lack thereof) in the US.

You clsim to know whay standard Eddie had reached... You obviously don't.  So in five years what had Eddie acheived.
Amaral claimed he'd help solve 200 cases... More codswallop.... Prrhsps you believe thst too.

From what. I've read in five years the only slert thst can be proven to be correct is Attracta Harron.. That's one... In five years

[Mr Gray]

If Eddie had this fantastic record Amaral and sceptivs believe then the alerts would have value but it's all hype... Rubbish.. Lies

[Vertigo Swirl]

I don't know the standard reached by the dog in question. These dogs can only be judged by their track records, and I do know that Eddie had never given a false alert. I also know that there's a wide variety of expertise (or lack thereof) in the US.

So you have no idea if the dog in the DeJesus case also had a supposedly unblemished track record up until that point.  Eddid did of course give several false alerts as far as alerting to cadaver odour are concerned but you have conveniently overlooked those.

[Mr Gray]

This.. No false alerts... Is a fallacy that gunit has naively believed

[Vertigo Swirl]

This.. No false alerts... Is a fallacy that gunit has naively believed

I believe the source of the “no false alerts” claim is the handler and/or his close associate if I’m not mistaken, not an independent arbiter?

[Mr Gray]

I believe the source of the “no false alerts” claim is the handler and/or his close associate if I’m not mistaken, not an independent arbiter?

It's a fallacy and can easily shown to be a fallacy

[G-Unit]

This.. No false alerts... Is a fallacy that gunit has naively believed

Once again you are accusing Martin Grime of lying. I find that quite distasteful; not to mention libellous.



FALSE ALERTS

'False' positives are always a possibility; to date Eddie has not so indicated
operationally or in training.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

[Mr Gray]

Once again you are accusing Martin Grime of lying. I find that quite distasteful; not to mention libellous.



FALSE ALERTS

'False' positives are always a possibility; to date Eddie has not so indicated
operationally or in training.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

Try reading it again.. I haven't..

As for your quote you need to post the whole paragragh. You are absolutely wrong.  Eddie has alerted many times.. It cannot be proven if all those alerts are,  correct..or false. It's basic common sense that some seem to lack..