The timeline revisited

[Icanhandlethetruth]

How could he possily know that every alert Eddie has made. Has been genuine.. He simply can't. Every unconfirmed alert isvan unknown.. Surely you can understand that

I don’t know, but he said it in a sworn statement. Maybe another thing you could email him about.
Anyway I thought you were under the impression that Eddie never achieved much anyway, what did you say, he only really found one body. Maybe he never alerted much in his 200 plus searches. Or maybe he was that good that he never gave a false positive, again who knows?

[Icanhandlethetruth]

It's very telling you ask me for evidence but are prepared to accept a totally daft claim from Grime without any evidence

Like you said when you referenced Kate McCanns testimony about the window being open but she claimed not to have opened it, was evidence of abduction, Martin Grimes testimony that Eddie never false alerted is evidence that Eddie never false alerted. There is no evidence that Eddie did false alert before 2007 is there?

[Mr Gray]

When I read that your wife was racially abused I felt sad that it should come to that on a forum.
 But then I thought 2 wrongs don’t make a right and if you had been abused on this forum maybe you should have some understanding not to abuse other posters yourself.

I didn’t ignore your post I took it onboard but felt any reply I made wouldn’t take us anywhere.
I have the utmost respect for other people, I don't know why you think I don't unless you think it was me who abused your wife

I dint think you sympathy for gunit takes us anywhere...I don't think your personal criticism of me takes us, anywhere.. I don't think two wrongs make, a right..... But I think context is important. I pointed out that the person you accused if malice has been on the end if some of the most maliciousvposts in the forum.. But I rise above it

[Icanhandlethetruth]

I dint think you sympathy for gunit takes us anywhere...I don't think your personal criticism of me takes us, anywhere.. I don't think two wrongs make, a right..... But I think context is important. I pointed out that the person you accused if malice has been on the end if some of the most maliciousvposts in the forum.. But I rise above it

OK I will leave out the personal stuff, I agree it gets us nowhere.

[Mr Gray]

Like you said when you referenced Kate McCanns testimony about the window being open but she claimed not to have opened it, was evidence of abduction, Martin Grimes testimony that Eddie never false alerted is evidence that Eddie never false alerted. There is no evidence that Eddie did false alert before 2007 is there?

Grime would need more than evidence to make such a claim he would need proof.
That claim cannot be substantiated unless every alert has been 100 % corroborate which is impossible

It would be strange if all his previous, alerts were corroborated but none in Luz or Jersey. 

If Grime did make that claim it reflects very poorly on his credibility

[Mr Gray]

I don’t know, but he said it in a sworn statement. Maybe another thing you could email him about.
Anyway I thought you were under the impression that Eddie never achieved much anyway, what did you say, he only really found one body. Maybe he never alerted much in his 200 plus searches. Or maybe he was that good that he never gave a false positive, again who knows?

An Foi request showed in 5 to 6 years eddie was only used in 37 cases.. More hype

[Icanhandlethetruth]

Grime would need more than evidence to make such a claim he would need proof.
That claim cannot be substantiated unless every alert has been 100 % corroborate which is impossible

It would be strange if all his previous, alerts were corroborated but none in Luz or Jersey. 

If Grime did make that claim it reflects very poorly on his credibility

So does Kate McCann need proof when she states she found the window open but claims she didn't open it herself? And if she has no proof do we disregard her testimony in its entirety. It also cannot be substantiated.

[Mr Gray]

So does Kate McCann need proof when she states she found the window open but claims she didn't open it herself? And if she has no proof do we disregard her testimony in its entirety. It also cannot be substantiated.

It's not individual pieces of evidence that are important it's the sum of the pieces

[Icanhandlethetruth]

An Foi request showed in 5 to 6 years eddie was only used in 37 cases.. More hype

Yes 37 cases and 200 individual searches and Martin Grime stated that Eddie didn't false alert in any of them.
Now unless you believe Mr Grime to be lying in his statement that's the only information we have about his record.

[Icanhandlethetruth]

It's not individual pieces of evidence that are important it's the sum of the pieces

OK so Kate Mcanns evidence is OK although it can't be substantiated but Mr Grime's is not because it can't be substantiated. Good to know.

[Vertigo Swirl]

When I read that your wife was racially abused I felt sad that it should come to that on a forum.
 But then I thought 2 wrongs don’t make a right and if you had been abused on this forum maybe you should have some understanding not to abuse other posters yourself.

I didn’t ignore your post I took it onboard but felt any reply I made wouldn’t take us anywhere.
I have the utmost respect for other people, I don't know why you think I don't unless you think it was me who abused your wife

If you had the utmost respect for people you wouldn’t come back to this forum after a prolonged absence and declare in the first new post you’ve written for a while that someone else’s post was “horseshit”. IMO.

[Icanhandlethetruth]

If you had the utmost respect for people you wouldn’t come back to this forum after a prolonged absence and declare in the first new post you’ve written for a while that someone else’s post was “horseshit”. IMO.

The post was "total rfubbish". I didn't refer to the poster as "total rfubbish" just the post. I had no respect for the post.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The post was horseshit. I didn't refer to the poster as horseshit just the post. I had no respect for the post.

oh come on now, if I describe something you’ve written as “horsehit” do you think that’s respectful to you as a person? 

[Icanhandlethetruth]

oh come on now, if I describe something you’ve written as “horsehit” do you think that’s respectful to you as a person?

Go ahead if you feel my posts are horseshit knock yourself out. My self esteem will not take a battering because you describe one of my posts as horseshit I can assure you.
You are expressing your view on the post not the person.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Go ahead if you feel my posts are horseshit knock yourself out. My self esteem will not take a battering because you describe one of my posts as horseshit I can assure you.
You are expressing your view on the post not the person.

Describing a post as “horseshit” is designed to be belittling and insulting.  The words people write on here are the only measure you have of them, therefore describing their posts as horseshit is hardly respectful of a person’s opinion.  Now, if you were to reply by saying what I’ve just written was “horseshit” it would get my back up, because it would be contemptuous of something I happen to believe is true.  That said, I believe you can be as rude about it as you like, just please don’t pretend you are respecting me or my views - on here they are one and the same thing imo.